Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN

  • From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:52:51 -0800

lol

inthane
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob J." <rjustice004@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN


How about using a spelling and grammar checker to scan and correct outgoing
e-mail messages?  A simple task albeit frequently overlooked.

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN


Agreed, it is not too hard to figure out that Jaws is still top dog in the
screen reader market all be it debatable.  That is why I feel it should be
orca vs narrator vs voice over.  Orca is in fact part of the OS if you use
the Gnome desktop with Ubuntu or Fedora etc.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:57 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN




Then for Linux you could not use Orca because it is not part of the OS
only
Mac would win that contest.  We need to do this kind of thing seriously.
I
would say don't use Jaws use System Access it is free if you use the
online
version Thus you could say Mac is free voice over, Linux is free Orca and
Vista free as well.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Greer
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:14 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN

In fact, to make it even more fair, don't use Jaws at all and Just use
Narrator.  Either XP's Narrator or Vista.  Betcha we would see a
productivity difference then huh?
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN


Well the point is dueling operating systems right?  That means that
one operating system has to win over all right?  Or is it instead, how
fast a bunch of people on Macs can burn a CD,  How fast a bunch of
Windows users can open a website?  If that is so, I personally would
rather know how each of the operating systems stack up against each
other from a productivity stand point.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Meredith" <tallin32@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
CSUN


Wouldn't that only be effective if the system specs were similar?

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John
Greer
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:24 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
CSUN

Quickest boot times from first press of the on button to screen
reader start.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:37 PM
Subject: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN


I am moderating an event called Dueling Operating Systems at the CSUN
conference next week.  Three users of an operating system and screen
reader  combination will compete for a couple hours:  Windows with
JAWS, the  Mac with VoiceOver, and Gnome/Unix with Orca.

We agreed to develop a long list of possible tasks that would each
take from about 3 to 5 minutes using software that comes with the
operating system, except for JAWS and Microsoft Office.  Either I or
others I enlist would pick a selection of tasks from the list at the
actual event.
Each task should be described in a general enough way so that
someone can choose the application and screen reader techniques that
achieve the same result.

If anyone has suggestions about possible tasks to include on the
list, I welcome such input.

Jamal

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