Re: Seeking collaborators for a fruitbasket in Adobe Flex

Just a reminder that there is a fruit basket program in Silverlight at

http://www.fruitbasketdemos.org/content/silverlight-fruit-basket-demo-kerneels-roos

and it was created in VS 2008.

On 4/10/2011 12:28 PM, RicksPlace wrote:
Hi Jamal and Sina: I tend to try and listen to movies or t.v. on Netflix or HULU etc... They use Silverlight and Flashrespectively. In addition I tried to use a Stock Brokerage Website which used Flash for something on several pages which did not seem to do anything. I tried to do something with Silverlight a few years ago but found it almost impossible for me to understand and get anything done in my VB.net Express version at the time. Another Blind fellow is working with flash to try and create some tutorials but he is pretty busy and ill so I'm not sure how far he has gotten yet.He still has some sight so he can do some analysis that would be tough for me. If I can ever afford Windows7 and VS 2010 etc... I will ReVisit Silverlight WPF Programming since much of it is integrated into that setup. In my old XP VS,actually Express versions, 2008 they are only partially implemented and not really accessible. Later and Thanks to Jamal once again for breaking some ground on another new Accessibility Technical that blind fat fingers like me might be able to use someday.
Rick USA


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Subject: RE: Seeking collaborators for a fruitbasket in Adobe Flex


Jamal,

Right right, but what I am saying is what interface will it be exposed through? You mentioned that MSAA is a subset of IA2, and in a way that's right, but even the subset features could be exposed via some other MIDL defined thing, right? So for example, to be quite technical, what function calls are being used to consume the information?

The reason I'm wondering is this. Does this then mean that differing amounts, levels, and paradigms of accessibility are available
into flex dependant upon the hosting application/process?

For example, UIA has what, 28 or so roles that it can expose, and then compossits of any of those, whereas IA2 has a differing
amount.

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamal Mazrui [mailto:empower@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 1:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Seeking collaborators for a fruitbasket in Adobe Flex

Hi Sina,
I think IA2 is a superset of MSAA, and that a fruit basket program would
probably only use the MSAA core.  Hopefully, however, this could inspire
others to go further than a fruit basket program with more sophisticated
apps that took better advantage of IA2.

I am still trying to understand this, but think there are different ways
of running a Flex/Flash app, some more embedded within an HTML page and
others more in a separate Flash window.  I want to experiment through
this process in learning the accessibility implications of different
approaches.

My understanding is that, with IE, the Flash Player is an ActiveX
component that uses COM, whereas in most other browsers, including
Firefox, it is a browser plug-in with some other binary interface (.  I
don't know more than that at this point.

Jamal


On 4/9/2011 11:49 AM, Sina Bahram wrote:
Jamal, are you thinking then that it will work via firefox? I can't remember whether flex can be run stand alone, I'm thinking no?

IE9 exposes UI Automation and MSAA through a broker, right? Thus, if you want IAccessible2 bindings, you're going to have to go
through Firefox to get them?

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:37 AM
To: programmingblind; blindwebbers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Seeking collaborators for a fruitbasket in Adobe Flex

I've been studying the Adobe Flex framework, which uses Flash Player as
a runtime engine for ActionScript code (like JavaScript).  I would like
to create a fruit basket program with free tools, rather than commercial
IDEs like Adobe Flash Builder.  There is a command-line compiler, but
few examples of how to develop an app without an IDE.  I may eventually
figure it out, as I have done much reading, but if anyone has knowledge
of this and would like to work together in building such a fruit basket
, let me know.

At the CSUN conference, I learned that Flex 4 implements the
IAccessible2 API. Essentially the same code can run either in a browser via the Flash Player plug-in, or as a desktop app via the Adobe AIR runtime

I have collected text tutorials on Adobe Flex at
http://EmpowermentZone.com/flex_doc.zip

Jamal
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