RE: Seeking collaborators for a fruitbasket in Adobe Flex

Jamal,

Right right, but what I am saying is what interface will it be exposed through? 
You mentioned that MSAA is a subset of IA2, and in a
way that's right, but even the subset features could be exposed via some other 
MIDL defined thing, right? So for example, to be
quite technical, what function calls are being used to consume the information?

The reason I'm wondering is this. Does this then mean that differing amounts, 
levels, and paradigms of accessibility are available
into flex dependant upon the hosting application/process?

For example, UIA has what, 28 or so roles that it can expose, and then 
compossits of any of those, whereas IA2 has a differing
amount.

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamal Mazrui [mailto:empower@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 1:16 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Sina Bahram; blindwebbers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Seeking collaborators for a fruitbasket in Adobe Flex

Hi Sina,
I think IA2 is a superset of MSAA, and that a fruit basket program would 
probably only use the MSAA core.  Hopefully, however, this could inspire 
others to go further than a fruit basket program with more sophisticated 
apps that took better advantage of IA2.

I am still trying to understand this, but think there are different ways 
of running a Flex/Flash app, some more embedded within an HTML page and 
others more in a separate Flash window.  I want to experiment through 
this process in learning the accessibility implications of different 
approaches.

My understanding is that, with IE, the Flash Player is an ActiveX 
component that uses COM, whereas in most other browsers, including 
Firefox, it is a browser plug-in with some other binary interface (.  I 
don't know more than that at this point.

Jamal


On 4/9/2011 11:49 AM, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Jamal, are you thinking then that it will work via firefox? I can't remember 
> whether flex can be run stand alone, I'm thinking no?
>
> IE9 exposes UI Automation and MSAA through a broker, right? Thus, if you want 
> IAccessible2 bindings, you're going to have to go
> through Firefox to get them?
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:37 AM
> To: programmingblind; blindwebbers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Seeking collaborators for a fruitbasket in Adobe Flex
>
> I've been studying the Adobe Flex framework, which uses Flash Player as
> a runtime engine for ActionScript code (like JavaScript).  I would like
> to create a fruit basket program with free tools, rather than commercial
> IDEs like Adobe Flash Builder.  There is a command-line compiler, but
> few examples of how to develop an app without an IDE.  I may eventually
> figure it out, as I have done much reading, but if anyone has knowledge
> of this and would like to work together in building such a fruit basket
> , let me know.
>
> At the CSUN conference, I learned that Flex 4 implements the
> IAccessible2 API.  Essentially the same code can run either in a browser
> via the Flash Player plug-in, or as a desktop app via the Adobe AIR runtime
>
> I have collected text tutorials on Adobe Flex at
> http://EmpowermentZone.com/flex_doc.zip
>
> Jamal
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