Good morning, I wanted to chime in on this one... I think we're facing the dilema of gui interfaces. Let me explain. Yes we can develop gui. Here's the issue. Kids today who program can create something much faster using the vs environments (for example) than a visually impaired programmer. And it's the wow factor. Look at what I did in five minutes. It's much more of a challenge for us to struggle fighting the tools. rick software developer Paul Ecke Ranch mailto:rwatson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Ecke.com Tel. (760)944-4007 (760) 753-1134 Ext 4007 -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Cox Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:21 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Searching for blind programmer to start a school for blind programmers On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I think trying to just teach programming though is counterproductive > because the classes in college do that rather well. I guess teaching people > to use tools might be a better goal then teaching coding. Well, you may be right. With the web, learning just about anything is so much easier than when I was a kid. What remains a mystery to me is why we're not seeing blind kids going nuts programming computers. Surely they have plenty of access to them in the US. Is there anything that can be done to inspire the new generation of blind kids to dive in and learn what's under the hood? Why do so few seem to make it? Bill __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind ECKE RANCH / ECKE GERANIUMS, LLC Providing Integrity, Innovation, & Grower Solutions for 3 Generations! This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or confidential information of Paul Ecke Ranch and is intended for a specific individual. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this communication, including any attachments without reading or saving them in any manner, and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Proporcionando integridad, innovación, y soluciones para cultivadores por tres generaciones! Esta comunicación (incluidos los anexos) puede contener información privilegiada o confidencial de Paul Ecke Ranch y está dirigida a un individuo específico. Si usted no es el destinatario, debe eliminar esta comunicación, incluidos los archivos adjuntos sin leerlos o guardarlos de ninguna manera, y se le notifica por este medio que cualquier divulgación, copia o distribución de esta comunicación, o la toma de cualquier acción basada en ella, está estrictamente prohibido. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind