Re: SayAll in EdSharp with JAWS 9 beta
- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:50:36 -0500 (EST)
Hi Eileen,
The URL is near the top of my message below <smile>, and restated here
http://www.EmpowermentZone.com/edsetup.exe
FYI -- Inthane's Grab Bag site has descriptions and links to almost all
programs I have developed
http://GrabBag.AlacornComputer.com
Thanks for your interest, and for any reporting you can do with FS.
Cheers,
Jamal
On Mon,
19 Nov 2007,
Eileen Lafond wrote:
> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:32:09 -0800
> From: Eileen Lafond <Eileen.Lafond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: SayAll in EdSharp with JAWS 9 beta
>
> Hi, Jamal,
> Where do I go to download Ed Sharp?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eileen La Fond
> Phone (206) 386-0011
> e.mail Eileen.LaFond@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >>> Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> 11/17/2007 4:03 AM >>>
> As you may know, EdSharp
> http://www.EmpowermentZone.com/edsetup.exe
> is an editor that attempts to maximize productivity by screen reader
> users, levering the best of my programming skills and experience so far.
> EdSharp is a text editor, word processor, HTML writer, coding environment,
> and file converter, developed in the C# language and based on the .NET 2.0
> Framework. JAWS 9, which many of us use, is in public beta, so this is an
> opportune time to make a difference in its development.
>
> With the current version, I encountered a problem that's quite concerning.
> It happened with a previous JAWS beta once before, and I was hoping that
> improved stability since then would have eliminated it in the latest beta.
> Not so, unfortunately.
>
> A SayAll in a large file (not huge, about 1 meg) seemed to be going
> fine. After a few pages, EdSharp stopped. I tried to examine the text,
> thinking there might be a lot of white space that confused JAWS. JAWS
> would not respond with SayLine or any other key. Instead, the text
> seemed to continue scrolling without speech. I tried Control+Home to
> get back to the top of the document, but this did not work either. I
> Alt+Tabbed away and then returned, but still the same problem.
>
> Eventually, after working in another application, I returned to EdSharp
> and found JAWS responsive to commands there. Not surprisingly, I had
> lost my place. When I found it via a search, however, I did not find
> anything unusual in the document at the point where the SayAll went
> crazy.
>
> If you get a chance, I'm curious whether this happens to you. It may
> not happen until after a few screens of reading, so pick something that
> you'd find useful reading anyway! If you experience a similar problem,
> please try to report it ASAP via the JAWS beta report form at
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/jawsbetareport.asp
>
> Rumors are that Freedom Scientific is getting ready to release the
> official JAWS 9.0, and I really want long standing issues with SayAll in
> large documents to be fixed. I have reported them myself, but every voice
> helps, particularly so that Freedom Scientific knows there are JAWS users
> of a product besides its developer!
>
> Another SayAll problem is noticeable when JAWS is set to "read by line
> without pauses" in the EdSharp.jcf configuration file. This is the
> default setting for JAWS SayAll, but a user alerted me to the fact that
> JAWS repeats text in a large document. Accordingly, I have made "read by
> sentence" the current setting in EdSharp.jcf, but that is not optimal for
> other reasons, including the apparent instability mentioned above. To
> check whether reading by line causes repeated text for you, go to the
> SayAll options dialog in JAWS configuration Manager.
>
> Unfortunately, other SayAll issues remain with TextPal
> http://www.EmpowermentZone.com/palsetup.exe
> where JAWS either fails to start reading or has long pauses in a SayAll of
> a large document.
>
> Thanks for whatever you can do to advocate with Freedom Scientific
> about this and any other compatibility issues you may have discovered
> with applications I have developed. They are meant to maximize
> productivity by blind users, and there are limits to what I can do
> without reasonable cooperation by the major screen readers. Getting
> JAWS to behave properly with common Windows controls used by these
> applications should help improve JAWS generally. By design, I avoid
> unusual, custom controls and generally try to accomplish all user
> interface interaction with common ones that should be well understood
> by screen readers, especially since they implement Microsoft Active
> Accessibility.
>
> Regards,
> Jamal
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