RE: SWT versus SWINg. was Re: Dialog boxes desperately require help

  • From: "Zamile Klaas" <zamilez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:46:53 +0200

Thanks John once again,
I'll definitely visit the link you sent me so as to see what Braille Blaster
entails.
I'm currently using Jaws 11, not yet having version 12. 
I understand that Jaws 12 is the latest, and has many features that are
impressive.
Zakes

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 2:48 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: SWT versus SWINg. was Re: Dialog boxes desperately require help

SWT is used in the BrailleBlaster application. I am developing it with 
Windows 7 and Jaws 12. The basic SWT classes are accessible out of the 
box, with no scripts. I have noticed some accessibility quirks, but SWT 
also has an accesibility package that can probably fix them. 

For more on BrailleBlaster go to http://www.brailleblaster.org

John

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 01:51:08PM +0200, Zamile Klaas wrote:
> Hi John, 
> Thanks for this info, 
> Please tell me in what ways can a totally blind person benefit from using
> SWT? 
> I'm currently using Windows 7 with Jaws 11.
> So, please help!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 1:40 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: SWT versus SWINg. was Re: Dialog boxes desperately require help
> 
> SWT and SWING are both sets of classes for constructing GUIs. SWT uses 
> native methods written in C to access the facilities of the partibular 
> operating system. There is a different version of SWT for Linux, mac and 
> Windows, but they all look the same as far as Java is concerned. Because 
> it uses Native system facilities, SWT is highly accessible and generally 
> doesn't need scripts. I haven't used swing, so i can't speak about how 
> it operates, but it has severe accessibility problems from what I have 
> heard.
> 
> John
> 
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:46:52PM +0200, Zamile Klaas wrote:
> > Hi there, 
> > I'm Zakes and would like anyone to tell me what is swing and SWT. 
> > Please help!
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J.
Boyer
> > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 9:32 PM
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Dialog boxes desperately require help
> > 
> > Are you using swing or swt? I would strongly recommend swt, since it is 
> > accessible right out of the box on Linux, Mac and Windows. there are 
> > also small programs called Snippets and longer examples that you can 
> > use. We are using SWT for BrailleBlaster precisely because of its 
> > inherent accessibility. One of our testers was surprised that the 
> > prototype worked without the Java Access Bridge or any screenreader 
> > scripts. For small snippet programs demonstrating various things, to to 
> > http://www.eclipse.org/swt/snippets 
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 06:30:31PM +0100, Roger Woolgrove wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > I'm fairly new to java though I think I've got a fair grounding.
> However,
> > I am running into problems with dialog boxes.  I've been using someone
> > else's libraries to create dialog boxes and that's fair enough.
However,
> > when it comes to creating my own I will not be able to use someone
else's
> as
> > their software is copyrighted.  So what I'm struggling with is the code
to
> > create my own.
> > > 
> > > Thus far I've been using a static method or methods of a class that is
> > copyrighted to make a request, request with supplied default answer,
> confirm
> > and alert.
> > > 
> > > I've searched and searched for examples of created dialog boxes but to
> no
> > avail.  So, could anyone assist me.  If you could supply a project
folder
> > with the classes inside which would allow me to create the appropriate
> > dialog box with a simple invocation of a static method, that would be
> great.
> > If you could also give me a little guidance as to how to use the
dialogs,
> > just in case that would be excellent.
> > > 
> > > I've been stuck with this for weeks and am now confounded as to what
to
> > do.
> > > 
> > > Many thanks
> > > 
> > > roger
> > > 
> > 
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