RE: SSIP for Windows -- beta almost ready for release
- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:51:09 -0500
Jaws does not need to be running for any of this to work, but it can be
instructed to sleep during the instance of a VNC application or x11 client,
and so on.
Take care,
Sina
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macarty, Jay
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:44 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SSIP for Windows -- beta almost ready for release
Jamal,
I'll let Sina respond to the Linux questions. But for the java questions you
asked, here are the answers:
1. Yes, the sample SSIPClient jar, which will come with the server
installation, could be used to self voice a java application.
2. To simply self voice a java application would not require knowledge or
use of the accessibility framework. If one simply wished to self voice a
particular event, such as a button being pressed or the content of a
JTextArea, one would only need to create an instance of the SSIPClient
object in the desired class and then call the sayString method to vocalize
the desired text.
While the use of swing and the accessibility framework are not required,
certainly choosing to take advantage of the fact that the framework is there
is a big plus in self voicing an application. also, if one wishes to create
accessibility tools of a more general purpose, such as a java based screen
reader solution, then utilizing the java accessibility API would be the best
approach.
3. If one were simply wishing to self voice a specific java application, the
only thing you would need to do is include the SSIPClient jar in your
classpath. If you were executing multiple applications from the same JRE,
you could place the jar in the jre\lib\ext directory so that it would be
picked up automatically. However, if you were simply self voicing a single
application, it would likely be preferable to include the SSIPClient jar in
the classpath definition for that application.
NOTE: While you need only include the client jar to be able to gain
connectivity to the SSIP server, you must, of course, make sure that the
server executable is running to receive the connection prior to when the
java application tried to establish a session. This could be handled as
simply as placing the launch of SSIPVoiceServer.exe in your startup folder.
Again, if your intention was to develop a general purpose accessibility
technology, such as a java screen reader, the configuration of the SSIP
client itself isn't any harder but you would likely have to define the
accessibility application to the JVM thru the accessibility.properties file.
In addition to the work Sina is doing, the SSIP server, by itself, will
include the server executable and some client wrappers for various
environments such as java, AutoIt, ruby, and a DotNet assembly dll to allow
one to include a SSIPClient namespace in whatever DotNet environment they
are using.
Hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:47 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SSIP for Windows -- beta almost ready for release
Congratulations on your progress with this project, Jay! Like others, I
confess having trouble understanding the full ramifications. Could you or
Sina describe some vignettes from a user's perspective?
I think I understand that this technology would allow someone on a Windows
computer (e.g., running JAWS) to operate a remote Linux computer with Orca.
Is that right? Would JAWS need to be running after the connection was made?
If so, would there be key conflicts to manage between JAWS and Orca?
Does this technology also allow Java applications to be self voicing?
Do
they have to implement the Swing API according to accessibility guidelines?
If one has a Java app installed, how would the self-voicing part be added?
I know from the quality of your skills and the time you have invested in
this project that it is something with exciting potential. I'm just trying
to get a better grasp of what it would and would not do. If there are any
sample apps or audio demos that illustrate the possibilities, that would be
great.
Cheers,
Jamal
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