RE: SSIP for Windows -- beta almost ready for release
- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:28:19 -0500
Will do
Take care,
Sina
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brent Neal
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:24 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SSIP for Windows -- beta almost ready for release
Keep us up to date on how this is going. The more accessible Java is the
more opportunities we will have for employment. Java is very widely used at
the State where I work.
>>> "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> 11/28/07 8:06 AM >>>
Jay, you're in Texas, right? I am sorely tempted to come out there for a
week of coding, *grin*.
I have written a java screen reader which does a far better job, in my
opinion, than jaws via the access bridge. I'd love to work with you on it,
and we can integrate the SSIP stuff in as well. It is already written in a
way to take advantage of the SSIP facilities of the libraries used in the
Remote Access Bridge, which means it's more than fluent in SSIP, amongst
other protocols.
We really need to chat some time, again, on the phone ... we apparently have
a ton to catch up on.
Take care,
Sina
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macarty, Jay
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:38 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SSIP for Windows -- beta almost ready for release
Jim,
Besides becoming a part of the tools Sina is currently involved with, the
SSIP server will allow easy self-voicing of any application with the ability
to utilize the same client calling format for SAPI, JAWS speech output,
Window-Eyes speech output, and any other screen reader API hooks I can get
specs on.
From an accessibility product perspective, one thing I will be using the
SSIP server for is to revisit my java screen reader application. I find it
frustrating to know that java accessibility is capable of a much cleaner and
more controlled experience than that exposed by the Access Bridge. The java
accessibility framework is quite powerful and flexible and I want to be able
to use it to its fullest extent rather than trying to work with what the
bridge is willing to expose in what manner. The java screen reader project
interacts directly with the accessibility API and has full access to the
Accessibility Hierarchy. The SSIP server will allow the java screen reader
to make use of the java accessibility API to its max and in a 100% java
solution simply using SSIP to spend the text to be spoken out to JAWS,
window-Eyes, or SAPI.
Don't get me wrong. I think the Access bridge has come a long way in the
past couple of years and I will continue to use it where it makes sense.
But, I want to be able to have an alternative access solution which is
written in java and thus, can get the most directly from it.
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:21 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: SSIP for Windows -- beta almost ready for release
Hi,
What is the impact of this on accessibility? What will it help with?
Thanks.
Jim
James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
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this is one time I wish I had gotten up "earlier" instead of my normal time,
ah well, since Sina has an interest in this, I'll just ask if I can link to
the page for this when you get it ready.
regards,
inthane
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Macarty, Jay {PBSG}" <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: SSIP for Windows -- beta almost ready for release
Sina,
Thanks for the feedback and the offer! I'll take you up on that and will
contact you off list to discuss the details.
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:17 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SSIP for Windows -- beta almost ready for release
Jay, look no further for hosting, my friend. Since this project is directly
related to the Remote Access Bridge, please allow me to offer you SVN
access, if you like, site hosting, databases, and so on ... It's no problem
for me to set that up, so just contact me off list.
Glad to see there is now a .net parser for SSIP as well. This will open up
some oppertunities.
Take care,
Sina
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macarty, Jay
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:13 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: SSIP for Windows -- beta almost ready for release
All,
Some of you may be aware that I have been working for some time now on a
server for the Speech Synthesis Interface Protocol, SSIP, for the windows
platform. I started out trying to implement the server in Auto-It but
couldn't get the multi-threading functionality or object oriented
capabilities I wanted. I then switched to ruby but the 1.8 version didn't
have the interface and abstract class support I wanted and the executable
packaging wasn't quite what I wanted either. I have now switched the
development over to C# and found the capabilities I wanted. There is still a
little clean-up of the initial beta release and I'll have to find a website
to host the download installer, but here is a description of the initial
release.
SSIP is a non-synthesizer specific protocol for producing speech output.
The specs haven't been updated in a while but can be found at the URL
http://www.freebsoft.org/doc/speechd/ssip.html
SSIP uses a simple socket connection and a text command syntax. To produce
the spoken output "this is a test." a calling client program might send
these commands:
set client_name j.macarty:demo:test1
speak
this is a test.
.
The set client_name command simply identifies this client session for
tracking purposes since the server supports multiple client sessions
concurrently. The speak command tells the server to start receiving text to
be spoken. The text input is terminated by a line containing a single dot.
this also triggers the server to send the text to the output speech channel.
The SSIP for windows server supports output to JAWS, window-Eyes or SAPI.
The SpeechManager class uses an interface named ITextToSpeech with
implementation classes written for each of these 3 output channels. The
server was written with C# 2.0, instead of 3.x, because some corporate
builds, including ours here at work, are still using Dot Net 2.0. Rather
than attempting to set up the COM interface for SAPI and Window-Eyes, I
decided to use the tlbimp utility and build assemblies for them. This
allowed for simply creating the objects like SpVoice for SAPI and SpeakClass
for Window-Eyes. Also, once the assemblies were built, it was easier to
examine them using the ildasm tool to see the method calls and signatures.
The current server supports multiple client connections. I tried it out with
3 clients; one speaking thru JAWS, one speaking thru Window-Eyes, and one
speaking thru SAPI. The SAPI interface also supports the SET RATE, SET
VOICE, and SET VOLUME SSIP commands. The server also supports the SSIP CHAR
command for immediately speaking a single character. The SSIP BLOCK
structure command set and the Speech Synthesis Markup Language, SSML,
support are not included in this release but will be added.
The install includes a small Auto-It program called SSIPVoiceClient which
allows one to test out the server. The client contains an input text field
where you can enter SSIP commands to send to the server and an output text
area which echoes back the server response codes.
I'll post another update when I have arranged for a download host and have
finished packaging up the install program. I'm hoping to provide a java
client API for the SSIP server, if Sina hasn't already developed one, and
some client examples in other languages as well.
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