My greeting Alex, I think there are many keyboards with rollover, some of them may be very cheap as they are not True n-rollover keyboards but still can handle the six and even eight keys of braille very well. my keyboard was really cheap and is made in china. its brand is called "extreme". i do not know if you would find it in your country or not. In any case here is some websites to help you, the first is a website to download a testing program and the second website contains a list of high-end keyboards that do have n-rollover feature: http://www.braille2000.com/brl2000/KeyboardReq.htm http://www.braille-pokadot.com/keyboard.html Also did you tried other six-key combinations, in another row, as my laptop has exactly the same problem and was only able to handle four keys of SDF JKL but when i tried pressing YTR UIO it handled all the six keys well. i know the position of this keys will not be as comfortable as the original keys but they provide a fast solution. About the price of the program, it is $40 for one copy and $66 for two copies. there is a full information about the price on the Program's website: http://www.oss-globe.com/sbk hope i have give you all the info you wanted. hope you the best. Alex Parks <mehgcap@xxxxxxx> wrote: I could only get 5 keys to work at a time, but something odd happened. I could get all letters and symbols to come out correctly, even an "er" sign, but I cannot get a p to come out. It keeps turning into an s. Now, suddenly, these keys are not working again and often only 2 will work at a time. How easy is it to find a keyboard with the rollover this program needs, and how much will it cost? Again, how much is the actual program? Thanks. Have a great day, Alex > ----- Original Message ----- >From: koko koko >To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Date sent: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 05:14:16 -0800 (PST) >Subject: re: SBK V2.0 with Three letter braille contractions and many improvemnets >Hi Alex, >In order to know if the keyboard can handle 6 keys at the same time, simply open Windows Notepad or Word and press the six keys at the same time, try this more than once and see if all the sex letters appear in each time or not. >As for the problem of the keyboard, my desktop keyboard worked perfectly, while my laptop keyboard had the same problem as yours. >i get over the problem, by using the option in the program called "Define SBK keys". you can get to it from the settings button. this option allows you to defin any other six keys for braille writing. you will first try to find other six keys that can work simultaneously. to do so open notepad again and try pressing any six keys in the first row, then in the second and the third row untill you see that all six keys were displayed. >for my laptop the working keys were (YTR UIO), you may consider trying them. >hope this would help. >Alex Parks wrote: I tried this but I keep getting strange things happening. I >tried the word "am" but got "a more" instead, for example. >Normally what I type will not be translated correctly at all and >odd things will happen. I think a big part of the problem is >that my keyboard will not work with that many keys at once. >Where can I get a keyboard that can do this, or better yet how >can I tell if one will before I buy it? How much does this >program cost to register (I live in the U.S.). Thanks. If I can >get this working it looks like an amazing program. >Have a great day, >Alex >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: koko koko >>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Date sent: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:04:17 -0800 (PST) >>Subject: SBK V2.0 with Three letter braille contractions and many >improvemnets >>Hi all, >>i have written on this subject before, however i have received >today an e-mail that informs me about the new version and giving >me also free update to it from version 1.3. I tried the new >version and it is quite good and has a lot of features. those >have attracted me exclusively: >>-the addition of three-letters contractions of English braille. >>-the ability to identify contractions with bold italic and >underline. >>-the ability to add Your own contractions and define rules for >them. >>-the much advanced feature of allowing you to create a whole new >language with alphabets, simple and complex braille contractions. >>-i also observed some bugs have been resolved and some other >improvements. >>the new program must have a try. >>you can download the new version 2.0 from >>www.oss-globe.com/sbk >>Thanks >>--------------------------------- >>Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. >__________ >View the list's information and change your settings at >http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >--------------------------------- >Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.