I do Vinux documentation in a similar manner. For instance, I write all of the tips in markdown, which is very readable plain text and convert it to html and just paste it into the Vinux Wicky. I had been using pandoc in Vinux on files in a shared folder. I will have to try using pandoc in Ed Sharp, since it has been made very simple. I use Ed Sharp a lot in these cross platform situation, since it can handle the line ending differences. Ed Sharp is a great editor with countless features. I am sure it has a long history. I am amazed at how proficient Jamal is in providing Open Source tools and user scripts! I do not understand how he can be so responsive on bugs and suggestions for all of his work as well as continue to crank out new offerings. Perhaps if he had more time or help, he would rewrite certain old code to be structured to today's recommendations. However, the payback probably does not warrant such an effort.
Don MarangThere is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter.
Dean Kamen -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:43 AM To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Quest for the Perfect Text Editor
Just a question here: Arachnophelia and other editors like it include something called a "code beautifier" or "code formatting" function. I know Code::blocks does, for instance and I think Eclipse does as well. If it is a question of code readability, due to jumbled lines, long lines, etc. could the file not be run through one of those tools to separate out the blocks of code? Just speculating. I will freely admit that I don't know either c# or visual basic. I know a small bit of c++ and I understand the syntax for c# at least is quite similar to c++ with using braces and semicolons and the like. Perhaps, one of the tools used to format such code might be put to use in making this code more easily read? For the record, I too am a huge EdSharp fan. In windows, it is now my text editor of choice. I've recently been toying with Linux and virtual machines. I have Edsharp up in one window and, using the unity feature in vmware, I have emacspeak up on another window and alt tab between the two as I learn emacspeak. I take notes wiht Edsharp and plan to include them in a manual being worked on for Vinux. To me, EdSharp is the closest thing windows has to Emacspeak for functionality and productivity if you are a blind person. Like emacspeak, it extends beyond programming since I write outlines to powerpoint presentations and save them to rtf in edsharp and then suck them into a presentation in powerpoint. I write my training materials in edsharp as text files and then paste them into word for tweaking and formatting before saving them as .docx files. It saves me hours of frustration with office and other tools where I am wrestling with Jaws just during the document writing process. Slow or not at start up (incidentally, emacs suffered similar criticisms in the past), it's a great editor and I am glad to have found it. Incidentally, I find it only takes a few seconds to come up for me and that's just the first time IK pull it up. Probably five or six seconds max. Every other time, it comes right up as fast as notepad or something like that. Alex M Tyler writes: yes. Even -if- I know what I'm talking about. Have you ever bothered looking at that code? not to mention the mangling I had to do to get my startup time to decrease from 45 seconds, we're using microsoft.visualbasic classes for IO. There's little to no docs. I spent hours messing with it, I know how frustrating it is. There's a difference in reading horrible code and cleanly well-written code. But of course, I just don't know what I'm talking about and code here isn't the key. What matters as long as it works? We'll just overlook some lag that an editor shouldn't experience -at all- for startup. Hell, 3-d games load faster. But then again, experience is the key, and I don't know what I'm talking about... __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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