RE: Price per Performance was Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN
- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:55:14 -0800
Hey does it do Redneck. I really miss installing Redhat in the Redneck
language.
Ken
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Greer
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:15 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Price per Performance was Re: Seeking possible tasks for
Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN
>From what I know of it, Orca is also able to display in different
>languages
and is also scriptable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 6:26 AM
Subject: RE: Price per Performance was Re: Seeking possible tasks for
Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN
> Jim,
>
> My answer was a bit brash as well. In the work I'm doing with BSO on
> the delivery of accessible instructional materials,
> multi-lingualism/culturism is at the forefront of almost all of my
> thoughts (look at the open source AMIS, pronounced ahmee like the
> plural for friend in French and not Amos as in Amos Otis, the former
> center fielder for the KC Royals) Daisy player and the huge number of
> language packs available for it. Thus, Kurdish, Urdo and all the rest
> are often the top priority for many of our users, especially the
> really young ones.
>
>
> cdh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James
> Panes
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:01 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Price per Performance was Re: Seeking possible tasks for
> Dueling Operating Systems at CSUN
>
> Hi BC,
>
> Perhaps my choice of an example was unfortunate.
>
> The point I was trying to make is that some features come with too
> high a price. A screen reader that can speak 100 languages or more is
> no more useful to me than a car that can do 200 mph is useful for most
people.
>
> When adding esoteric features causes the price of AT to be so high
> that most
>
> people can not buy it, that is no different than the package not being
> available in your prefered language.
>
> Fortunately, JAWS has utilities so that the user can expand its
> capabilities. This should, and does go heavily in its favour any time
> that businesses and individuals are making a purchase decision.
>
> Regards,
> Jim
> jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
> jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> "Everything is easy when you know how."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:05 AM
> Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
> CSUN
>
>
> It is irrelevant to *you* if it is available in Kurdish but I'm
> certain some people blinded by Turkish cluster bombs won't care if it
> works in English.
> Price, for now, must be considered with a much lower priority than
> depth and breadth of feature set as an underpowered screen reader
> causes people to gain false hope and lose real jobs.
>
> In an upcoming blog post, I will be announcing that I will no longer
> work on AT that doesn't carry some form of a free (as in freedom with
> a lower case
> "f") license. It doesn't have to be GPL 3 but I'll probably be
> spending the summer in the GNU offices up in Boston and all of my
> managing, specifying, hacking, etc. will be on free software only.
> I've loads of reasons for this decision and I'm at a point in my
> career where my clients pay me handsomely to work on free software so
> I have the luxury of refusing to keep my work available to everyone.
>
> I understand the price issues and think that a lot needs to be done in
> that area. I've also seen people lose jobs because the AT couldn't
> deliver the features needed to perform a job for which they had been
> hired. Free software with a solid extensibility model is probably the
> only way to solve both problems but the events that will make that
> possible are well off in the future.
>
> cdh
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James
> Panes
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
> CSUN
>
> There are few people that would argue against JAWS being king of the
> hill when it comes to screen readers, however, cost must be a
> consideration when deciding on what system to purchase. This is why
> the shark has not eaten the
>
> competition yet.
>
> It is irrelevent to me if a screen reader is offered in Curdish, but I
> care a whole lot if I can not perform basic tasks because a system
> with AT is right out of my price range.
>
> Regards,
> Jim
> jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
> jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> "Everything is easy when you know how."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:43 AM
> Subject: RE: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
> CSUN
>
>
> Price is only a valuable criteria if the AT serves the user with the
> features he needs. Absolutely free hardware, software and electricity
> in English only is of no value to one who only Speaks Tagalog.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James
> Panes
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:28 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Seeking possible tasks for Dueling Operating Systems at
> CSUN
>
> I think that an important part of the performance measure should be
> the final cost of the configuration used for each system. This will
> help to put Windows and Mac OS on a more equal footing. I honestly
> believe, however, that UNIX will wipe the floor with both of them if
> this is made one of the criteria.
>
> Regards,
> Jim
> jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
> jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> "Everything is easy when you know how."
>
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