Re: On working with consoles/terminals in Sodbeans

Yep ... thanks for the insight. The dir command however was used as an
example to demonstrate the context thing only.
Thanks again!
Marlon

2009/11/4, R. Haynie <rhaynie@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Marlon, try using "dir /d", that might be what you are looking for in
> windows command prompt.
>
> Andreas, I have a couple comments.
>
> A command prompt/terminal all comes down to review of screen output to me.
>
> <dream>
> I think it would be great to be able to review output in different ways,
> pertaining to its presentation.  So if the output is representing a
> table/grid.  Then in addition to being able to review the entire line
> from left to right.  It would be great to navigate by cell.  Much like
> some of the screen readers read a table in Microsoft Word or an HTML
> table.  You can navigate by row/column/cell.  Navigating by cell would
> just read the cell contents as you come down row by row.
>
> So the console would know the output is representing a table, and you
> would have review commands to navigate that table efficiently and logically.
> </dream>
>
> -Rodney
>
>
>
> Marlon Brandão de Sousa wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 1- One thing that is needed is to stop the screen and enter in a
>> review mode where you can use the arrows to read, spell or do other
>> reviewing operations with data currently displayed on the screen. The
>> screen should not scroll while this reviewing is being made, so that
>> when the normal mode is actived again, the information can continue to
>> be presented.
>> 2- One thing that helps in a text mode based is do not showing
>> graphical stuff like several iphens and other characters that compose
>> a somehow graphical presentation. A typical screen reader will
>> consider these characters as part of the text to be reviewed making
>> the important information hard to be accessed.
>>
>> Another thing that should be considered is context. For example, if I
>> use the dir command in the DOS prompt and use the JAWS cursor (also
>> called the review cursor or review mode in other assistive
>> technologies), I will hear a bunch of numbers (the date and time plus
>> perhaps some other information) before hearing the file name. If my
>> goal is hearing the files list, having to hear all dates plus time
>> plus other information before hearing the file names will make the
>> command unaccessible in practical terms for me, even with JAWS being
>> perfectly able to read the results of the command in the screen.
>> Thanks,
>> Marlon
>>
>> 2009/11/3, Andreas Stefik <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> Work is proceeding steadily on the sodbeans project. We are "nearly"
>>> complete with our debugger windows and are steadily finishing up the OOP
>>> implementation of our custom programming language. While there's quite a
>>> bit
>>> of work to do, my team is now looking for some ideas on what would make
>>> working with "consoles" easier (e.g., the command line).
>>>
>>> One of the ideas that we are going to implement, for sure, is making our
>>> console reversible, so you can always back up what was output to a
>>> previous
>>> point, just like the rest of sodbeans. We're also looking carefully at
>>> what
>>> kind of audio should be output and are integrating this console directly
>>> into netbeans. A few questions though:
>>>
>>> 1. When using a terminal, is there anything about it that makes
>>> interacting
>>> with it difficult?
>>>
>>> 2. What kind of features would you like to see in the terminal that you
>>> think would help alleviate the problems?
>>>
>>> As always, everything we are working on is open source and freely
>>> available.
>>> We're highly open to ideas, suggestions, and feedback. Of course --- if
>>> you
>>> want to submit a patch or get more involved; we're open to that too.
>>>
>>> Andreas Stefik, Ph.D.
>>> Southern Illinois University Edwardsville
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> Department of Computer Science
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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