Re: On working with consoles/terminals in Sodbeans
- From: Marlon Brandão de Sousa <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:17:17 -0200
Hello,
1- One thing that is needed is to stop the screen and enter in a
review mode where you can use the arrows to read, spell or do other
reviewing operations with data currently displayed on the screen. The
screen should not scroll while this reviewing is being made, so that
when the normal mode is actived again, the information can continue to
be presented.
2- One thing that helps in a text mode based is do not showing
graphical stuff like several iphens and other characters that compose
a somehow graphical presentation. A typical screen reader will
consider these characters as part of the text to be reviewed making
the important information hard to be accessed.
Another thing that should be considered is context. For example, if I
use the dir command in the DOS prompt and use the JAWS cursor (also
called the review cursor or review mode in other assistive
technologies), I will hear a bunch of numbers (the date and time plus
perhaps some other information) before hearing the file name. If my
goal is hearing the files list, having to hear all dates plus time
plus other information before hearing the file names will make the
command unaccessible in practical terms for me, even with JAWS being
perfectly able to read the results of the command in the screen.
Thanks,
Marlon
2009/11/3, Andreas Stefik <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Folks,
>
> Work is proceeding steadily on the sodbeans project. We are "nearly"
> complete with our debugger windows and are steadily finishing up the OOP
> implementation of our custom programming language. While there's quite a bit
> of work to do, my team is now looking for some ideas on what would make
> working with "consoles" easier (e.g., the command line).
>
> One of the ideas that we are going to implement, for sure, is making our
> console reversible, so you can always back up what was output to a previous
> point, just like the rest of sodbeans. We're also looking carefully at what
> kind of audio should be output and are integrating this console directly
> into netbeans. A few questions though:
>
> 1. When using a terminal, is there anything about it that makes interacting
> with it difficult?
>
> 2. What kind of features would you like to see in the terminal that you
> think would help alleviate the problems?
>
> As always, everything we are working on is open source and freely available.
> We're highly open to ideas, suggestions, and feedback. Of course --- if you
> want to submit a patch or get more involved; we're open to that too.
>
> Andreas Stefik, Ph.D.
> Southern Illinois University Edwardsville
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Computer Science
>
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