Re: Now I Know Why I'm Having Trouble With Objects

  • From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:01:07 -0600

You are my guinea pig; I am looking into tutoring c++ next semester.
On 4/12/2011 1:41 PM, Homme, James wrote:

Hi Ty,

Add me to Skype. My Skype handle is jim.homme. Good luck. You will have to bring out the pabulum.

Jim

Jim Homme,

Usability Services,

Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme. NonVisualDevelopment.org: Blind people can drive computers <http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org/>. Demonstration GUI Programs: You can program GUI's while blind. <http://www.fruitbasketdemos.org/>

*From:*programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Littlefield, Tyler
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:30 PM
*To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Now I Know Why I'm Having Trouble With Objects

Jim: I've got some free time tonight, do you want to skype? I can throw some ideas at you.
On 4/12/2011 1:26 PM, Homme, James wrote:

Hi,

If it's OK, I'd like to take this a little further. I was thinking about my little chess move validation project. I thought I would sit down and try to write out a little plan, because my book says that the nouns become objects, but I started to get confused when I asked myself this question. Do the pieces move, do the squares on the board somehow get pieces, or does some controller in the sky move the pieces? In the real world, the controller would be the player who is moving the pieces. The pieces can't move them selves, and all the board can do is sit there and have pieces on its squares. The rules would be another object, would they not? Oh my head.

Jim

Jim Homme,

Usability Services,

Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme. NonVisualDevelopment.org: Blind people can drive computers <http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org/>. Demonstration GUI Programs: You can program GUI's while blind. <http://www.fruitbasketdemos.org/>

*From:* programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Homme, James
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:20 PM
*To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* Now I Know Why I'm Having Trouble With Objects

Hi,

I found this humorous.

Understanding the Parts of VBA "Speech"

If you were going to play soccer using BASIC, the instruction to kick a ball would look something like

"Kick the Ball"

Hey---this is how we talk! It makes sense. You have a verb (kick) and then a noun (the ball). In the BASIC code in the preceding section, you have a verb

(print) and a noun (an asterisk). Life is good.

Here is the problem. VBA doesn't work like this. No object-oriented language works like this. In an object-oriented language, the objects (the nouns) are

most important (hence, the name: object oriented). If you are going to play soccer with VBA, the basic structure would be:

Ball.Kick

You have a noun---the ball. It comes first. In VBA, this is an object

. Then you have the verb---to kick. It comes next. In VBA, this is a method.

The basic structure of VBA is a bunch of lines of code where you have

Object.Method

Sorry, this is not English. If you took a romance language in high school, you will remember that they used a "noun adjective" construct, but I don't know

anyone who speaks in "noun verb" when telling someone to do something. Do you talk like this?

Water.Drink

Food.Eat

Girl.Kiss

Of course not. That is why VBA is so confusing to someone who previously stepped foot in a procedural programming class.

Let's carry the analogy on a bit. Imagine you walk onto a grassy field and there are five balls in front of you. There is a soccer ball, a basketball, a

baseball, a bowling ball, and a tennis ball. You want to instruct the kid on your soccer team to

Kick the soccer ball

If you tell him kick the ball (or ball.kick

), you really aren't sure which one he will kick. Maybe he will kick the one closest to him. This could be a real problem if he is standing in front of

the bowling ball.

Jim

Jim Homme,

Usability Services,

Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme. NonVisualDevelopment.org: Blind people can drive computers <http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org/>. Demonstration GUI Programs: You can program GUI's while blind. <http://www.fruitbasketdemos.org/>

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Ty


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Thanks,
Ty

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