Re: Next steps on Open Komodo

No, I am not waisting energy complaining, but I want to let everyone know when I don't like something, because other persons might have the same problem and they may lose their time by trying a lot of programs as I did with very many editors when I was searching for one that does what I need.
Unfortunately I didn't find a perfect one and it is not very efficient to start making my own program for every program that I don't like entirely. 

Octavian
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:19 PM
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Try harder. Don't waste energy complaining.

James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810

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world.  Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead




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Yes I could do it, and I also offered help for some programs I was
interested in, but I haven't found programmers for open source programs
that
were willing to help with coding, but a lot of "if you don't like it, do it 

yourself" answers.

Octavian

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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 1:27 PM
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Hi,
Why not do it for other people? What's wrong with that? Someone might do
something for you in return.

Jim

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Well, this is true, but those people are also true.
If I don't know C  to be able to improve a certain program, it doesn't
matter that I can help with translations of the interface, or
documentation,
because it won't help me.

And the programmers that create the open source programs use to say that
if

you don't like it, make your own improvements.

Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim" <jhomme1028@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: Next steps on Open Komodo



Hi,
One of the things a lot of people can't see is how they can contribute.
They get the impression that the only people who are able to contribute
are the very technical people.

Jim
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Next steps on Open Komodo



100 percent agreed.  Sorry if I came across wrong to you.  I feel that
the amount of talent on this list alone could help the blind community

in

many ways if many understood what open source software was and how it

can

benefit the blind community as a whole.  I recently started a little

open

source email list of my own but it kind of fell by the way side because

I

found that so many of the blind did not understand what open source
software was. Many of them when they downloaded something like

Audasity,



expected it to be Adobe Audition or Sonar right out of the gate.  I am
assuming it is because the concept that the source code is available to
download, modify and make it work for them is so new and foreign to

what



they have been shown.  I was still able to see when Netscape made their
browser open source and became Mozilla.  I also must admit was not a

big



user of the Netscape browser, but have always followed the open source
movement with interest.  Now when I see companies like FS charging the
blind community the prices they do for their software.  Be it better
software or not I am going to try my best to promote an alternative

they



can afford or even get for free.  Frankly a majority of screen reader
users are like many of the sighted users.  What they do with their
computer is browse the web, check email and burn an occasional CD. With
the open source movement however, a screen reader may only do those now
but later has the potential to do things that products like Jaws can

only

dream of.  Yes, I am talking about NVDA and the Jaws supporters will be
up in arms about it all.  But the Jaws people need to realize that

their



software is too expensive to the masses.  Even to people that can

afford



it. To the people that complain that open source software is crap, turn
your computer off now because the software that is allowing you to
receive this email, and serves the web to you is also an open source
project. Some other bits of software that people may not even realize

is



open source is Python, php, My SQL, and even Perl.  The list goes on,

but

the choice is up to the blind programmers in what they take away from
what I have said.
JohnPG search for all of your Jaws scripts at
http://www.blindcrawler.com/
Also be sure to check out Blind Crawler's Legend of the Green Dragon
server at http://www.blindcrawler.com/lotg/
There will be more to come from Blind Crawler very soon.
Administrator: John Greer
Blind Crawler.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Leventhal" <aaronlev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Next steps on Open Komodo



I agree that in general, that many large companies can do more.

But I also believe that the community itself can do more for itself.
Wouldn't it be great to see more organization and activity from the
community itself? Look at what's possible on the net today, with

efforts

like Wikipedia, Linux and Mozilla. I say lead by example, and take

your



fate into your own hands. Raise the bar for the big companies and show
them what accessibility is. The knowledge is distributed but the

action



can be united.

- Aaron
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