Re: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound effects in a webpage
- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:40:33 +0200
Ok, will also be honest - thank you - but sometimes when I'm fiddling
around/playing with experimental things like this, I get frustrated, and this
type of error message are basically me rebuking myself...<smile>
Anycase, in the 16+ years that have been working sort of professionally as a
producer of IT content I haven't been caught out/forgotten to clean up things
like this - hold thumbs that that doesn't change (BTW, hold thumbs is a rather
south african specific version of cross your fingers where you put the thumb of
a hand inside it's own fingers for good luck)
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: Homme, James
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound
effects in a webpage
Hi,
If you get into the habit of avoiding this kind of thing, you won't forget at
the wrong time. I'm not trying to be a kill joy. I'm just looking out for
another human.
Jim
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:28 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound
effects in a webpage
I know, but this isn't any real type of work as such yet - just
testing/trying out technology, but will change it shortly.
I still remember the one time as a software support guy when I had to explain
to a customer to ignore the friday the 13th warning message that the one
developer had forgotten to take out of the app before that version went into
production.
Anyway, sorry - had sort of frogotten about that one, and there's another
small one that will appear if someone tries to just go look at the javascript
source...<smile>
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: Homme, James
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound
effects in a webpage
Hi,
Please remember that if you ever get into an employment situation that you
should never put messages that you think are funny or cool in your debugging
code. I've known programmers who have gotten fired for it.
Jim
Jim Homme,
Usability Services,
Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:20 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound
effects in a webpage
Ok, have uploaded around 3 different versions in last 15 minutes or
so...LOL!
The other joke is that with the javascript source hidden in an external PHP
file, it will also swear at someone who tries to go look at it...
Anyway, you can do me a favour, and just try it one last time...thanks.
Only other real limitation have noticed is it apparently needs flash 8 or
higher, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: Storm Dragon
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side
sound effects in a webpage
Hi,
This wins the coolest debugging message award. When the page loaded I got
the following message and an ok button.
shit happened
After the second time this message was shown the page loaded with the
following messages:
Drum here (needs to make use of flash, and javaScript):
(number row 1-9)
Back to BlindZA website debug: soundManager: Waiting indefinitely for
Flash (will recover if unblocked)... soundManager: Firing 1 onready() item
soundManager::flashBlockHandler(): No flash response, applying .swf_timedout
CSS.. soundManager: No Flash response within expected time. Likely causes:
Flash blocked or JS-Flash security error. soundManager.onload() complete
soundManager::initComplete(): calling soundManager.onload() soundManager:
Firing 1 onready() item soundManager::flashBlockHandler(): No flash response,
applying .swf_timedout CSS.. (Flash loaded) soundManager: Getting impatient,
still waiting for Flash (SWF loaded)... -- SoundManager 2 loaded (OK) --
(Flash): Enabling polling, 50 ms interval (Flash): JS to/from Flash OK Flash
security sandbox type: remote (Flash): SM2 SWF V2.96a.20100822 (AS3/Flash 9)
soundManager: Attempting to call Flash from JS.. -- SoundManager 2: HTML5
support tests (/^probably$/i): mp3: false, mp4: false, ogg: true, wav: true --
-- soundManager::init() -- soundManager::externalInterfaceOK() (~4 ms)
soundManager::initMovie(): Waiting for ExternalInterface call from Flash..
soundManager::initMovie(): Got EMBED element (created via JS)
soundManager::createMovie(): Trying to load
./swf/soundmanager2_flash9_debug.swf -- SoundManager 2 V2.96a.20100822
(AS3/Flash 9) + HTML5 audio, MovieStar mode, normal polling, flashBlock mode --
Note: Switching to flash 9, required for MP4 formats. flashContainer:
Thanks
Storm
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On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 10:40 +0200, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Ok, seems that while you have a document.ready function that JQuery
makes use of since it then knows the whole document object model will have been
initialised, and this is where you keep all of it's manipulation scripts, I
seemd to need to in fact load the various soundManager options before the
document initialised as such, so I moved it up to above that sort of
event/function, but within the same script block since javascript still seems
funny in that way with regard to variable scopes etc.
I am also now just keeping all script content within the source of the
one page, but if can get this part/version to work, I might then try move it
out to an external script source PHP handled file and again see if that causes
any issues - but don't really think it would.
In other words, while it may not be too pretty since I've turned on
quite a bit more debugging info, it should now, hopefully at least play one
sound when you type in that text field, and this is since it now seems that
something like FireFox isn't passing the same keycode value etc. via
javascript, so am now going to have to try figure out a more workaround way to
find out which key you've pressed - might look into something like just reading
the value of the text/input field, and then work on that etc., but not sure it
would work real time enough.
Anyway, this is still working for me in IE8, and at least now
triggering the 1 sound to be played in FireFox, but that's all have tested it
in so far.
Again, if you want to have a 'look', and let me know if the whole
number row plays the same sounds (if any at all):
http://www.blindza.co.za/RTDrums/
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: Storm Dragon
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side
sound effects in a webpage
Hi,
I tried this one and got no sounds. I am using Vinux (Ubuntu 10.04).
Here's the output from the page:
Drum here (needs to make use of flash, and javaScript):
(number row 1-9)
Back to BlindZA website
-
soundManager::initMovie(): Waiting for ExternalInterface call from
Flash.. soundManager::initMovie(): Got EMBED element (created via JS)
soundManager::createMovie(): Trying to load ./soundmanager2_debug.swf --
SoundManager 2 V2.96a.20100822 (AS2/Flash 8), MovieStar mode, normal polling
Thanks
Storm --
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On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:45 +0200, Jacob Kruger wrote:
http://www.blindza.co.za/RTDrums/
This one makes use of the JQuery javascript dynamic html library, as
well as the soundManager embedded, flash object that should be (hopefully)
relatively platform independent to sort of preload MP3 sound clips that can
then be triggered to play almost real time, and if this works well enough
across various platforms, it might then in fact be possible to use something
similar to create relative dynamic sound effects to be used in conjunction with
DHTML to create sort of platform independent games, sound providing tutorials,
etc. etc. - hopefully anyway...<smile>
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
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