RE: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound effects in a webpage

Hi,
If you get into the habit of avoiding this kind of thing, you won't forget at 
the wrong time. I'm not trying to be a kill joy. I'm just looking out for 
another human.

Jim

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:28 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound 
effects in a webpage

I know, but this isn't any real type of work as such yet - just testing/trying 
out technology, but will change it shortly.

I still remember the one time as a software support guy when I had to explain 
to a customer to ignore the friday the 13th warning message that the one 
developer had forgotten to take out of the app before that version went into 
production.

Anyway, sorry - had sort of frogotten about that one, and there's another small 
one that will appear if someone tries to just go look at the javascript 
source...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound 
effects in a webpage

Hi,
Please remember that if you ever get into an employment situation that you 
should never put messages that you think are funny or cool in your debugging 
code. I've known programmers who have gotten fired for it.

Jim

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:20 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound 
effects in a webpage

Ok, have uploaded around 3 different versions in last 15 minutes or so...LOL!

The other joke is that with the javascript source hidden in an external PHP 
file, it will also swear at someone who tries to go look at it...

Anyway, you can do me a favour, and just try it one last time...thanks.

Only other real limitation have noticed is it apparently needs flash 8 or 
higher, but anyway.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
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From: Storm Dragon<mailto:stormdragon2976@xxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound 
effects in a webpage

Hi,
This wins the coolest debugging message award. When the page loaded I got the 
following message and an ok button.
shit happened
After the second time this message was shown the page loaded with the following 
messages:
Drum here (needs to make use of flash, and javaScript):
(number row 1-9)

Back to BlindZA website<http://www.blindza.co.za/index.htm> debug: 
soundManager: Waiting indefinitely for Flash (will recover if unblocked)... 
soundManager: Firing 1 onready() item soundManager::flashBlockHandler(): No 
flash response, applying .swf_timedout CSS.. soundManager: No Flash response 
within expected time. Likely causes: Flash blocked or JS-Flash security error. 
soundManager.onload() complete soundManager::initComplete(): calling 
soundManager.onload() soundManager: Firing 1 onready() item 
soundManager::flashBlockHandler(): No flash response, applying .swf_timedout 
CSS.. (Flash loaded) soundManager: Getting impatient, still waiting for Flash 
(SWF loaded)... -- SoundManager 2 loaded (OK) -- (Flash): Enabling polling, 50 
ms interval (Flash): JS to/from Flash OK Flash security sandbox type: remote 
(Flash): SM2 SWF V2.96a.20100822 (AS3/Flash 9) soundManager: Attempting to call 
Flash from JS.. -- SoundManager 2: HTML5 support tests (/^probably$/i): mp3: 
false, mp4: false, ogg: true, wav: true -- -- soundManager::init() -- 
soundManager::externalInterfaceOK() (~4 ms) soundManager::initMovie(): Waiting 
for ExternalInterface call from Flash.. soundManager::initMovie(): Got EMBED 
element (created via JS) soundManager::createMovie(): Trying to load 
./swf/soundmanager2_flash9_debug.swf -- SoundManager 2 V2.96a.20100822 
(AS3/Flash 9) + HTML5 audio, MovieStar mode, normal polling, flashBlock mode -- 
Note: Switching to flash 9, required for MP4 formats. flashContainer:

Thanks
Storm
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On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 10:40 +0200, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Ok, seems that while you have a document.ready function that JQuery makes use 
of since it then knows the whole document object model will have been 
initialised, and this is where you keep all of it's manipulation scripts, I 
seemd to need to in fact load the various soundManager options before the 
document initialised as such, so I moved it up to above that sort of 
event/function, but within the same script block since javascript still seems 
funny in that way with regard to variable scopes etc.
I am also now just keeping all script content within the source of the one 
page, but if can get this part/version to work, I might then try move it out to 
an external script source PHP handled file and again see if that causes any 
issues - but don't really think it would.
In other words, while it may not be too pretty since I've turned on quite a bit 
more debugging info, it should now, hopefully at least play one sound when you 
type in that text field, and this is since it now seems that something like 
FireFox isn't passing the same keycode value etc. via javascript, so am now 
going to have to try figure out a more workaround way to find out which key 
you've pressed - might look into something like just reading the value of the 
text/input field, and then work on that etc., but not sure it would work real 
time enough.
Anyway, this is still working for me in IE8, and at least now triggering the 1 
sound to be played in FireFox, but that's all have tested it in so far.
Again, if you want to have a 'look', and let me know if the whole number row 
plays the same sounds (if any at all):
http://www.blindza.co.za/RTDrums/
Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: Storm Dragon<mailto:stormdragon2976@xxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Next step in trying to make use of real-time client side sound 
effects in a webpage

Hi,
I tried this one and got no sounds. I am using Vinux (Ubuntu 10.04). Here's the 
output from the page:
Drum here (needs to make use of flash, and javaScript):
(number row 1-9)

Back to BlindZA website<http://www.blindza.co.za/index.htm>
-
soundManager::initMovie(): Waiting for ExternalInterface call from Flash.. 
soundManager::initMovie(): Got EMBED element (created via JS) 
soundManager::createMovie(): Trying to load ./soundmanager2_debug.swf -- 
SoundManager 2 V2.96a.20100822 (AS2/Flash 8), MovieStar mode, normal polling
Thanks
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On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:45 +0200, Jacob Kruger wrote:
http://www.blindza.co.za/RTDrums/
This one makes use of the JQuery javascript dynamic html library, as well as 
the soundManager embedded, flash object that should be (hopefully) relatively 
platform independent to sort of preload MP3 sound clips that can then be 
triggered to play almost real time, and if this works well enough across 
various platforms, it might then in fact be possible to use something similar 
to create relative dynamic sound effects to be used in conjunction with DHTML 
to create sort of platform independent games, sound providing tutorials, etc. 
etc. - hopefully anyway...<smile>
Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'



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