RE: New programmer

You go man I have a mac and I use it to test software that is it I cannot
stand all the minutia I have to go through to do things.

Ken

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:59 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: New programmer

I have no such qualms expressing a definite opinion.
 
With jaws, it takes me one key, one, to navigate by heading on a website.
With voice over, it takes 4.

This is true about navigating by any other html element.

This is simply ridiculous.

The modality of access for a blind user is already heavily burdoned by
multiple mapping structures, context aware configuration
changes, etc, etc ... Four keys to just navigate by a heading ... Really?

Take care,
Sina

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas Stefik
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 1:57 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: New programmer



On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


        I would think it would work since VoiceOver is now part of the OS
and I have not heard too many mainstream features not
available.  
        


Apple has definitely made strides. I'm not criticizing. We do work with them
directly, though, and are on the mailing lists of
course. But really, when it really comes down to it, NetBeans is over 2
million lines of code and that's enough work keeping up as
it is!

Voice over support is also much more flexible than some systems, but like
anything, there's no silver bullet. When you get into the
nitty, gritty, details, things get complicated. My team is also massively
less familiar with objective C and the apple APIs, which
are basically another planet. 

I mean, folks know how this goes --- pros and cons, pros and cons,

Stefik 



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