Re: New programmer

Intellesense is the Visual Studio feature that guesses what code you are starting to type. It is very helpful and annoying all at the same time. For instance, as you type in a class name it will pop up to complete the class name. Once the class name and the period is typed, a list of the available methods and properties pops up as you type or press Control+J. You then can arrow up and down in the list to see what is available and be certain it is not mistyped. I sometimes have trouble getting it to perform the completion. I believe it should be done by clicking on the suggestion or pressing Alt+RightArrow. If using JAWS, this would require pressing Insert+3, then Alt+RightArrow. This does not always work for me. Perhaps I should try Insert+NumPad Minus followed by Numpad Slash to emulate a mouse click. One method that always makes the completion is to hit Enter. Unless this completes the statement, errors will continue to pop up until corrected. The list of methods and properties not only provides the suggestions, it provides a short explanation and parameters. Sometimes the continual guessing gets annoying, like while typing within the quotes of a MessageBox. The constant error warnings gets annoying as well, especially when adding large blocks of code and you have not finished the block yet. I find myself constantly hitting Escape followed by F7 twice to assure I am in the code window! I think this can be temporarily turned off, but it always returns.


Don Marang

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From: "Øyvind Lode" <oyvind.lode@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:29 PM
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: New programmer

What's Intellesense?
I'm going to try VS Express 2008 at some point.

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
Sent: 1. mai 2010 20:16
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: New programmer

the advantage about working in a IDE is that you can code, test run, recode
and rerun and so on, plus if using the VS IDE you have a dedicated help
system geared to what your working on

it's all packaged together and quite accessible this way.

you could program in Ed sharp,  and set things up that way, but its more
time and less aid and you have to set it all up by hand, fine if that's what

you want to do, but a waist of time as far as I am concerned.

plus you would lose intelesense, and other such aids to your work.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Øyvind Lode" <oyvind.lode@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 4:23 AM
Subject: RE: New programmer


Hi

What's the main advantages of using a IDE like Visual Studio?
I thought of just starting out coding in my favorite text editor EdSharp.
Is that a stupid approach?

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace
Sent: 30. april 2010 23:57
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: New programmer

Thanks Chris. It is usable but not clean.
It is what it is unless I ever script it.
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: New programmer


No I was using JAWS at the time. No workaround as far as I knew solved it.


Chris Hallsworth
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On 30/04/2010 22:27, RicksPlace wrote:
Hay Chris: Are you running Windoweyes? I have a tough time with
Intellisense reading too much and even reading what I had typed on the
TextEditer line. Is that the same problem you were having? If so let me
know how you worked around it. It is annoying.
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"
<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: New programmer


Hi, I used Visual C# Express 2008, which is very accessible. There are
issues with the intellisense feature, but worked around the problem.
The Express editions of Visual Studio uses language-independent IDEs,
whereas Professional and higher use one IDE for all languages.
Hope this helps.



Chris Hallsworth
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On 30/04/2010 19:14, Øyvind Lode wrote:
Thanks all!
Chris:
Is Visual C# Express Edition accessible out of the box?
And what's the difference between Visual Studio Express, Visual C#
Express?
Is it just that Visual C# is only a C# IDE and Visual Studio is a
complete
IDE for C, C++, C#, F# etc?

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: 30. april 2010 19:44
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: New programmer

I would go for C# as it's very similar to java in terms of program
structure. When I told my professors at university that I couldn't use
Java natively, that's what they suggested; c#. I used the Visual C#
Express Edition for my programming assignments. Hope this helps.


Chris Hallsworth
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On 30/04/2010 16:13, Øyvind Lode wrote:
Hi

I want to learn to program.
I'm not quite sure what to dive into yet.
I think I want to focus on desktop application development on Windows.

Which language do you recommend?
C, C++, C#, F#, Ruby, Python, Java etc?

Currently I'm leaning towards C# or Java.
I don't know why though :)

I'm a Jaws user and EdSharp is my text editor of choice.



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