RE: New programmer
- From: Øyvind Lode <oyvind.lode@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 17:24:12 +0200
I agree.
I'll have a look at VS when I've gained some more experience.
I'll need a IDE like VS to design GUI's, though I don't know how this is
done by a blind person.
I still can picture a GUI layout in my head, the title bar, the menu bar etc
etc.
I guess that's useful to me when the time is right to try building a GUI.
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacques Bosch
Sent: 1. mai 2010 16:59
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: New programmer
If you just want to play around, a text editor will be fine.
However, in my opinion, you can never achieve the same productivity with
that approach as with Visual Studio.
You can use the VS 2008 Express series. It is free.
Some benefits:
* Syntax highlighting - should you have any vision remaining.
* Visual Designers - should you have have any vision remaining.
* Intellisense.
* Code completion.
* Auto code formatting (configurable)
* Integrated compiler and debugger.
* Code navigation, such as *GoToDefinition* and *GoToDeclaration*.
* Code information: types of variables in tooltips etc.
* And lots of other tools too.
IDE stands for Integrated Development Environment. Basically, it is a fancy
and powerful text editor with all the extra development tools all right
there, readily accessible.
So, unless you have a very compelling reason, you should always use an IDE,
VS or other, all in my humble opinion.
Jacques
----- Original Message -----
From: "Øyvind Lode" <oyvind.lode@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: New programmer
Hi
What's the main advantages of using a IDE like Visual Studio?
I thought of just starting out coding in my favorite text editor EdSharp.
Is that a stupid approach?
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace
Sent: 30. april 2010 23:57
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: New programmer
Thanks Chris. It is usable but not clean.
It is what it is unless I ever script it.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "chris hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: New programmer
> No I was using JAWS at the time. No workaround as far as I knew solved it.
>
>
> Chris Hallsworth
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>
> On 30/04/2010 22:27, RicksPlace wrote:
>> Hay Chris: Are you running Windoweyes? I have a tough time with
>> Intellisense reading too much and even reading what I had typed on the
>> TextEditer line. Is that the same problem you were having? If so let me
>> know how you worked around it. It is annoying.
>> Rick USA
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"
>> <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: New programmer
>>
>>
>>> Hi, I used Visual C# Express 2008, which is very accessible. There are
>>> issues with the intellisense feature, but worked around the problem.
>>> The Express editions of Visual Studio uses language-independent IDEs,
>>> whereas Professional and higher use one IDE for all languages.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>> E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>>
>>> On 30/04/2010 19:14, Øyvind Lode wrote:
>>>> Thanks all!
>>>> Chris:
>>>> Is Visual C# Express Edition accessible out of the box?
>>>> And what's the difference between Visual Studio Express, Visual C#
>>>> Express?
>>>> Is it just that Visual C# is only a C# IDE and Visual Studio is a
>>>> complete
>>>> IDE for C, C++, C#, F# etc?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris
>>>> hallsworth
>>>> Sent: 30. april 2010 19:44
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: New programmer
>>>>
>>>> I would go for C# as it's very similar to java in terms of program
>>>> structure. When I told my professors at university that I couldn't use
>>>> Java natively, that's what they suggested; c#. I used the Visual C#
>>>> Express Edition for my programming assignments. Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>>> E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>>>
>>>> On 30/04/2010 16:13, Øyvind Lode wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to learn to program.
>>>>> I'm not quite sure what to dive into yet.
>>>>> I think I want to focus on desktop application development on Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which language do you recommend?
>>>>> C, C++, C#, F#, Ruby, Python, Java etc?
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently I'm leaning towards C# or Java.
>>>>> I don't know why though :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a Jaws user and EdSharp is my text editor of choice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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