Re: Netbeans and NVDA.

I haven't used it, but I found this:

http://netbeans.org/features/python/

Stefik

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Jared Wright <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  Does NetBeans support Python?
>
> Jared
>
>
> On 2/25/2010 12:26 PM, Dave Mack wrote:
>
> Stefik,
> Thanks for the information.  This sounds very good, as I want to  try to
> learn Python this spring and summer and have very very low vision remaining
> in the periphery of one eye and need TTS assistance.
>
> Best regards,
> Grandpa Dave in California
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Andreas Stefik <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:06 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Netbeans and NVDA.
>
>  Dave,
>
> Even if it does (and I have no idea), it wouldn't matter in our case. Sappy
> overrides text to speech for menus in NetBeans and forces them to read
> correctly, regardless of whether you are using JAWS or no screen reader at
> all (for low vision users that don't want to bother buying a screen reader,
> but enjoy having Text-to-speech). We do this via a complex combination of
> listener architectures, both in the NetBeans platform, through custom Dlls,
> and through some vanilla Java.
>
> So, on windows it least, we've tested it carefully and it appears to work.
> On Mac, however, it doesn't work yet for the system menu (the top level
> one), because of bugs in Apple Voice Over, which we've confirmed with Apple
> directly. Sun is helping us with a workaround, but it's very complex and
> won't make it in time for our initial Mac OS X release.
>
> In short, this first release will make sure the absolutely critical
> features work, like text editors, menus, and context menus. Some features
> are extremely hard to get right, though, because of the way the NetBeans
> platform architecture works (e.g., code completion and certain kinds of
> editor actions), and will ultimately require us to some more extensive
> NetBeans hacking. What's nice though is that, hopefully, this release should
> allow Sappy users to write their own NetBeans hacks in Sappy, in order to
> develop new and better versions of Sappy/NetBeans for the blind.
>
> Stefik
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Dave Mack <dcmack2@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>  NVDA uses object nabigation and does not yet employ video hooks and
>> cannot read so-called iconized menus except possibly if they include help
>> balloons.  Does NetBeans use iconized menus?
>>
>> Grandpa Dave in California - NVDA User
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Andreas Stefik <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:40 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Netbeans and NVDA.
>>
>>  Fillipo,
>>
>> I should say though, that our tool is compatible with JAWS and should work
>> even if no screen reader is installed. We'll be releasing on March 10th.
>>
>> Stefik
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Andreas Stefik <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Filippo,
>>>
>>> We are "almost" done with a patch for NetBeans to make it more
>>> accessible. Sadly, we haven't tested it with NVDA. Do you know if NVDA just
>>> runs through windows SAPI?
>>>
>>> We'll have to download nvda to give it a shot.
>>>
>>> Stefik
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Filippo Tenaglia 
>>> <filippo80@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> thank you for your reply, I tried eclipse but I found that the editors
>>>> wasn't accessible!
>>>> I should create all pages with the wizards and modify them with an
>>>> external editor!
>>>> Do you know which version is mor accessible? Or I should install some
>>>> plug-ins?
>>>>
>>>> Filippo.
>>>>
>>>> 2010/2/24, Chris Hallsworth <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>  > I think Eclipse would be better since it's open source and they have
>>>> a
>>>> > Win32 version that is accessible. I think the URL is www.eclipse.org.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Chris Hallsworth
>>>> > E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>>> >
>>>> > On 24/02/2010 11:48, Filippo Tenaglia wrote:
>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>> >> I'm newbie of the list and not very expert on JAVA, I should change
>>>> my
>>>> >> previous JAVA's IDE (Oracle Jdeveloper 10.1.2) because in my company
>>>> >> would use more opensource's tecnologies so I'm trying to use netbeans
>>>> >> 6.7.1.
>>>> >> Someone can suggest me some guides or a web site where I could find
>>>> >> some help about the ide's use with a screen reader?
>>>> >> Or, if for you netbeans is'nt  the best choice, can you suggest me a
>>>> >> better java's ide opensource?
>>>> >> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> P.S.: Sorry for my not perfect english.
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