didn't mean to forget your new project either, *sigh* so where do we get your adapter or adapted version at? it will go into my programming notes folder as soon as I read it for future reference, and with your permission I will link it to my grab bag site as well! elf proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!" www.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Andreas Stefik To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Most Accessible Programming Environment *** cough cough *** Sodbeans *** cough cough *** On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:52 PM, The Elf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: sorry, I got side tracked, and now I seem to have misplaced them again, *growl!* Rick of Ricks place is the one I got them from, elf proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!" www.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Most Accessible Programming Environment Hmmm, I must have missed it, can you repost the WE setup instructions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Re: Most Accessible Programming Environment from what I have seen on this list, first would be Visual studios, with the scripts developed on this list for jaws, and/or the improvements in readability setup I just received for WE, followed by the use of eclipse for C, C++, and java development, followed by ones like PHP and the other cross platform and natured languages that can be done simply in a text editor. a member of this list has and is running the "fruit basket demo" site which has examples of a simple application done in a number of languages so you can see what it reads like in code, plus if an Executable file can be made, one is generally provided so you can see it work. the URL for that is: http://FruitBasket.QuantumMyst.com HTH, elf proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!" www.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26" <jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: RE: Most Accessible Programming Environment Probably any Linux distribution with speakup patched into it so long as a console will be sufficient. Second place Macintosh with VoiceOver for G.U.I. work. Third place Windows with whatever screen reader is in use. Fourth place gnome with orca in the Linux environment for graphical development. I have yet to try using eclipse with orca but think that combination will prove promising. Emacs wherever it's appropriate is usually helpful too. Dos could be put on this list but that would change the rankings because I'd place dos as 2nd place since more is available to work with Linux now because of the discontinued support status of dos; the last real fully functioning version of dos Microsoft made was 6.22, later versions had pieces missing. Rot47: <;F56]52D9:6==@?2GJ]>:=> -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Ladis Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 14:47 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Most Accessible Programming Environment Would anybody like to share their opinion on the most accessible programming environment / language. Somebody today suggested PeopleSoft or SAP. Any opinions? Tom __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind