Hi Peter, The name Maple rings a distant bell somewhere, I think some folks have been using it for audio DSP, at least. At any rate, is there a demo of Maple or an on-line manual in which the notation it uses could be learned? I do know our lecturer is a former mathematician, so he'd probably be much more comfortable dealing with Maple notation rather than yet another ad hoc ASCII notation. All actual computation I need to do at the moment can be handled with a simple expression evaluator or a programming language, so I brought up Mathematica et al only due to their notation. We're basically talking about simple proofs of algorithm complexity and correctness mostly based on induction and common sense rather than, say, Turing machines. Although some of the PDF metadata does Read Power Point the original files used are actually Word docss in which the formulae are done with the equation editor. I managed to get copies of those files simply by asking for them. With Wordpad it only says inserted object on an equation, though. Viewing in Word 97 simply says gap, with SN8.02. OPening the thing up in the equation editor does let you read it through but the blinking focus disturbs speech, at least with SN8.02. Are equations in modern versions of Word more accessible in Jaws? I'm using Supernova and WOrd 97 since it does all I need and 97 is here much faster than 2003. I can have access to even the latest Office versions, though, should they bring about accessibility improvements. -- With kind regards Veli-Pekka Tätilä (vtatila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Accessibility, game music, synthesizers and programming: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~vtatila Peter Torpey wrote: > > You asked about Mathematica. > > Well, I am a blind physicist and have needed to do complex symbolic math. > > I must say, I've never figured out a good way of dealing with the PDF type > of documents you wish to read, but if you're doing your own math, equations, > etc., I found mathematica almost impossible to use with Jaws. > > The program which I found to be very accessible (and used all of the time) > is Maple (www.maplesoft.com). Although the Java interface they are pushing > into their new releases is somewhat clumsy with Jaws, the Classic interface > is very accessible with Jaws. I have found this program very useful. > > Maple is rather a costly program (> $1,000, although there may be a less > expensive version for students). > > An open source math program which you can obtain is macsyma. This runs > fairly well with Jaws (although I haven't played around with it much). I > found this on sourceforge.net. > > One other neat little program for which I developed scripts and had the > original developer tweak a bit to work well with Jaws is called QD > Accessible. This little program runs on the PacMate and does all sorts of > symbolic math, derivatives, solving symbolic equations, as well as doing > numerical math. I placed the program, scripts, and some documentation I > wrote on the Pacmate Gear web site so that folks could download it if they > needed it. > > I hope this helps. > > -- Pete __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind