RE: Mainframe - COBOL, DB2, IMS Etc.

  • From: "Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO" <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:17:30 -0500

Iran,

I use Jaws with a Braille display. I enjoy looking through the code in Braille 
myself. Were you given the option of bringing in Jaws? I am a Braille reading 
since first grade. I could code Java without it, but I am much faster having 
Braille. How much extra time were you given?

Susie

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 6:27 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Mainframe - COBOL, DB2, IMS Etc.

Man, I didn't know Lion's World could teach you so much.  Wish I had
nine months to go off to school.  I'm married with a kid and we got
another one on the way due in May.  Nine months in Arkansas ... not
gonna happen.  It sounds like just what the doctor ordered for you,
Aran.  You get .net and Java and you get it all in an accessible
environment.

Regards,
Alex M

On 10/12/10, Aran A <aran351@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Susie,
>
> Thank you very much for the information!
>
> I took the Java certification on 2006, but unfortunately I did not have a
> chance or place to use it.
>
> I contacted the local TechSkills, and through their website, I was able to
> read online books, and learn Java.  They did not assist me at all, but their
> website was very beneficial.
>
> I took the certification exam at the local New Horizon.  I can't remember
> who organized that, I had to make a phone call, and make sure that I will
> have a reader.  The reader read me the questions, and all the multiple
> options, and wrote my answers.
>
> I got some extra time, but it took me too much time to get used to the
> reader, and it took too much time for the reader to get used to me, so I was
> not able to finish the whole exam, may be 75% - 80%, but what I did was good
> enough to pass the exam successfully.
>
> Actually, the first time when I came to take the exam the reader did not
> come, and did not notify anybody, and it was a blessing, because even though
> I did not take the exam, I thought that I was not ready enough.  I bought an
> exam practice package, and it was very helpful, and I was ready for  the
> real exam.
>
> HTH.
>
> Regards,
>             Aran
>
> To get the Java material to learn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO" <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:02 AM
> Subject: RE: Mainframe - COBOL, DB2, IMS Etc.
>
>
> Hi Aran,
>
> I programmed in COBOL and most of the other stuff you did from my first job
> on August 9th until March of 2006. In 2004 I took a Java course at our local
> community college. I work for the United States Department of Agriculture in
> Kansas City, Missouri. I have been training in Java since being transferred
> to this division. I also help with Section 508 web questions. Please get on
> the program-java list on freelists and tell us about your travel to Sun
> certification. If you can't do that, please continue this thread to explain
> things like how much time it took you to take the test, how was your
> blindness accomidated, and what study material did you use. Obviously, I
> feel the need for us old folks with COBOL is out dated. Everything here is
> being migrated to Java.
>
> Susie Stanzel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:17 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Mainframe - COBOL, DB2, IMS Etc.
>
> Hi Aran,
> I work for Bender Consulting Services, http://www.benderconsult.com/ I sent
> a note to our office to ask of we have any mainframe openings in your area.
> That was before I saw this note about your Java certification. If you want
> to send me your resume, I will forward it to our recruiters to see if we can
> help you.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Homme,
> Usability Services,
> Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
> Internal recipients,  Read my accessibility blog. Discuss accessibility
> here. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility advice
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aran A
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:16 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Mainframe - COBOL, DB2, IMS Etc.
>
>
> Alex, thank you very much!
>
> More than 3 years ago, I took and I was certified in Sun Certified Java
> Programmer (SCJP), but, after I was certified, I did not think that I was
> capable of writing anything more than very simple Java programs.
>
> I thought that the following course probably can help me with achieving
> employment as a >Net programmer, specially with the internship at the end:
>
> Microsoft Certified Professional Developer
>
>
> Program Description: The training is designed to educate the individual in
> computer programming and prepare the individual to work as a programmer at a
> business that has a computer network. The course is divided into three
> training modules: an introduction to programming; the .Net programming
> environment; development; followed by an internship.
> The first module combines an introduction to the Eclipse development
> environment and the Java programming language. The second module focuses on
> the .Net programming environment. Languages and environments taught include
> C sharp, XML, SQL, Visual Studio, SOAP, and WCF. The third module is a
> follow up to the academic instruction. Individuals work on development
> projects which serve to pull the diverse elements of the programming courses
> into a cohesive understanding of programming. Successful completion of the
> course will result in five Microsoft certifications: four Microsoft
> Certified Technology Specialists (MCTS) and one MCPD.
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> Other responses, and opinions are welcome!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>                Aran
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Mainframe - COBOL, DB2, IMS Etc.
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Everything I have read so far has Java as the number 1 most popular
>> language to learn because it is object-oriented and multiplatform.  I
>> am sure those on the list who are actively programming right now can
>> give you more experience-based answers but I've been exploring this as
>> a potential field for the last few months and doing a lot of research
>> on the best directions in which to go.  So far, it appears that Java
>> is a must-know for anyone with c# and other .net languages right on
>> its heals like VB and asp.  If you are going to do web development,
>> then php, javascript, and either python or perl are what you need to
>> learn.
>>
>> Try doing a search on Craigslist in your area using keywords like
>> developer, java, .net, c# web developer senior developer ETC.  That
>> will give you an idea of what might be out there in your area.  And,
>> of course, there is always c++ which never goes out of style and is
>> probably used on some of the main frames you have used.
>>
>> Sorry to hear about your job.  I hope you find something else soon.
>>
>> Alex M
>> Ps.  Here's an interesting link you might find helpful:
>>
>> http://regulargeek.com/2009/02/11/what-programming-language-should-i-learn/
>>
>> On 10/11/10, Aran A <aran351@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> In the last 23 years I worked as a mainframe programmer (COBOL, DB2, IMS,
>>> EASYTRIEVE, IBM Utilities etc.).
>>>
>>> Due to a merger, and many jobs outsourced to India, I was laid off.
>>>
>>> My question to all of you who are employed as a mainframe programmer, or
>>> was
>>> employed in recently as a mainframe programmer.
>>>
>>> Do you know, or believe that there is a future for a blind mainframe
>>> programmer in the current employment market, or mainframe programming is
>>> behind us.
>>>
>>> I must make up my mind either to continue pursuing a mainframe
>>> programming
>>> position in the Charlotte, North Carolina area, or better upgrade my
>>> skill
>>> sets, and learn Microsoft SQL Server, and .NET languages.
>>>
>>> Any opinion and advice that you may provide me, will be greatly
>>> appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thank you very much!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>            Aran
>>>
>>> P.S. If I decided to upgrade my skills, I am interested in learning
>>> languages that will increase my chance to be hired as a programmer.  If
>>> you
>>> believe that there are better languages than the .NET and Microsoft SQL
>>> Server, and you know of a place where I can learn those languages, please
>>> let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
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