RE: MVC

  • From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:24:21 -0400

I'm not sure I understand your question. What are you wanting?

Take care,
Sina

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:34 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: MVC

no personal involvement Sina, the fact that I know and use mvc does not mean I 
like it.
More over I didn't use mvc, but model view presenter.
offer me some points/links about what you use as a methodology strictly for 
architecture.
Because agile is a more general concept.
I use agile in practice as SCRUM for small teams of programers, but in large 
teams agile does not work so well so I grow up on
PRINCE 2.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:04 AM
Subject: RE: MVC


> This is the version of MVC most commonly associated with the web. MVC is 
> not always under such restrictions. For example, sometimes,
> it's necessary to move where you maintain state, simply because of 
> definitions you've laid out that state the view can't speak to
> the model directly, even though other definitions imply a lack of state 
> being maintained anywhere but in the model.
>
> Frankly, I'm not a huge fan of MVC. I find it impractical, very limiting, 
> and very rigid. I sort of liken it to the waterfall
> development methodology of software engineering. I tend to be more of an 
> agile/star model guy, which means that I also really like
> things like software busses.
>
> Again though, different strokes for different folks.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
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> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:37 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: MVC
>
>
> a little bit different...
> 1. the model is formed from classes that assembles your domain and your 
> business logic.
> Let say that there you will find classes like person, account, or 
> something similar.
> But the model does not power lifting, it simply offer services.
> 2. The controller takes al user information/events from the view and uses 
> the services ofered by the model to make necesary changes.
> 3. View pass to the controller al  user information/events and then query 
> the model about its state changes to reflect them on the
> view.
> Simply:
> the user does something, the view announce the controller that the user 
> has done something.
> The controler, makes necesary calls to the model to cary out the needed 
> actions.
> The view sees if there are model changes and display them.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Homme, James <mailto:james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 9:59 PM
> Subject: MVC
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is this how Model View Controller works?
>
>
>
> 1. You have something on the back end, the model,  that does all the heavy 
> lifting.
>
> 2. On top of that, you have the controller, which sits between the user 
> and the model that calls the methods of the model.
>
> 3. The view simply passes information from the user to the controller 
> which the controller interprets for the model.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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