Re: Jaws version needed for Windows 7

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Your logic doesn't exactly dictate when java updater or somethign else
wanting to update will pop up though, which renders UAC still useless
since jaws won't read it.

On 9/14/2010 3:37 PM, The Elf wrote:
> to a degree, I'd try turning narrator on, its usually fairly good
> (sometimes too good) at reading the stock windows dialog, and a note,
> you should know when UAK is going to pop up, if you turn something on
> that is going to need authorization, it pop's up, but if your in the
> middle of reading an Email and it pops up, ah, maybe we have a problem
> here? just as if it comes up in the middle of typing something in notepad,.
> 
> a bit of logic can go a long way to smoothing things out
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield"
> <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 7:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Jaws version needed for Windows 7
> 
> 
> Hello:
> Thanks for the explaination of this. I only have one comment. Isn't the
> UAC supposed to protect you by showing you -what- is trying to change
> your comp? If Jaws just locks up, "just hitting alt+y" is slightly
> counter productive to the reasoning for UAC in the first place it seems.
> 
> On 9/13/2010 7:27 AM, Stephen W. Wise wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>     As a general rule if you are launching an application (and I
>>>> emphasize
>>>> you)and UAC comes up-characterized by a sound (applies to Windows 7)-you
>>>> would hit the key combination Alt+Y for yes...this also applies to
>>>> when JAWS
>>>> is being installed for the first time or if a new version is being
>>>> installed; at least from my experiences, the JAWS installer will ask
>>>> you to
>>>> hit enter to reboot the system and continue installation (but not
>>>> always)
>>>> and after logging into your account UAC comes up.  Generally, this is
>>>> not a
>>>> problem if you only have one account on the system as the login screen
>>>> usually will have your name highlighted if you didn't set a password at
>>>> which point you would just hit enter. Otherwise, your name would be
>>>> highlighted and you would hit enter and type your password and press
>>>> enter.-just hit Alt+y for 'Yes' and the installation should continue.
>>>> As far as a process beginning at the login screen and then
>>>> re-initializing
>>>> itself after logging into the account-that has to do with the security
>>>> protections of Windows 7.  JAWS needs to run in an elevated rights
>>>> mode in
>>>> order for it to access the login screen and then reload itself into the
>>>> users account at the privilege level of the user of the system.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
>>>> Littlefield
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:33 AM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: Jaws version needed for Windows 7
>>>>
>>>> Yes, jaws does tend to lock up on UAC. And for one reason or another, it
>>>> starts some sort of new process on login, then restarts itself after you
>>>> log on.
>>>> On 9/12/2010 10:06 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>>> Never had any problems with that you might need to reinstall.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:26 PM
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: Jaws version needed for Windows 7
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Good evening,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can I confirm that even the newest build of JAWS 11 doesn't work
>>>>> with the
>>>>> UAC dialog in Windows 7?  I have to use NVDA everytime I need to
>>>>> interact
>>>>> with a UAC dialog.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>> Everett Zufelt
>>>>
>>>>> http://zufelt.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Follow me on Twitter
>>>>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt
>>>>
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>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-09-12, at 10:08 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think 10 is the first but I iwll warn you you won't like it if you
>>>>> don't
>>>>> get the newest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian D.
>>>>> Nichols
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:40 PM
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Jaws version needed for Windows 7
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Listers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I must replace my 5 year old computer, and the new one will have
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> version 7.  What is the first version of JAWS that will support
>>>>> Windows 7?
>>>>> I am licenced for JAWS 9, but not later.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have spent quite a while today searching the JAWS website for this
>>>>> information, but without success.  It must be there somewhere, but I
>>>> somehow
>>>>> missed it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Any information would be very much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> TIA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ian D. Nichols,
>>>>
>>>>> toronto, Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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