Hello mr. c++ i-dream-in-opcodes master,>Out of curiosity, have you? been in a multiple person development team, I mean, so that you can back up how well Python works? I have. Thanks for what I'm sure was a very constructive question that I know wouldn't have lead to your vast amount of arrogance making an appearance.
On 6/18/2011 12:39 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
I have, as has Ken more than me, and both of us have experienced the complete misery that is the lack of proper typing in multiperson development teams. Out of curiosity, have you? been in a multiple person development team, I mean, so that you can back up how well Python works? Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 9:48 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Java versus Python Have you coded in python frequently enough to be able to back up the statement that coding in Python dies after big projects? I've added to some python projects and you can still code just as fast. On 6/18/2011 6:45 AM, John J. Boyer wrote:One reason we chose Java for BrailleBlaster is SWT. It really works as a cross-platform GUI builder. Once you get into a complex project the advantages of being able to develop something quickly in Python are much less. John On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 03:22:52PM +0300, black ares wrote:In fact it isn't a matter of preference. Best trained profesionals in this area choose the platform and technology best tailored to the project needs. So If I have a project that I can do better and quick in python than I will choose that langgage. If options are better in java I will choose it. Depends very much on the project requirements. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tseng"<davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:15 AM Subject: Re: Java versus PythonI personally find arguments about programming languages much analogous to those seen in politics. Both sides have great points but tend to drive one another towards opposite extremes. Some camps are die hard dynamic language practitioners while others stick to strongly typed code. I will say that strongly typed languages have kind of won the battle historically. Most of the industry writes in C-styled languages like C/C++, java, etc. Lisp, still beloved by many, kind of lost. Python, as many have shown, works wonderfully and frees up coders to actually code, is still largely a wrapper on C. For those who want absolute performance, it's considered still an extra level of indirection that's not worth the productivity gain. I love python and its free-form style and the amount of progress you can make using it. Python excels at the rinse and repeat (compile, run, fix) style of coding. The few seconds you need to compile a C-styled language and run, you're already fixing the bug in python. You're not babied into writing object-oriented code ala java, but can independently mix in functional aspects if you wish. You can just as easily go OO if you want as well. On 6/17/11, Alex Hall<mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Programming is certainly a matter of preference in most situations. I would probably give up if the only option were php, since I really hate that language (no offense to anyone). Java is easy enough, but I agree that it feels bulky at times. I like Python's ease of use and readability, plus you can create executables with it, something that is difficult in java. Some people don't like that python is loosely typed, but I prefer saying: name=raw_input("Enter your name: ") to, if memory serves: name=new String(); in=new InputReader(); name=in.readLine(); or something along those lines. On 6/17/11, Littlefield, Tyler<tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I've used both. I really like python because it comes on most *nix systems. I also like Python because of it's flexability and versatility. Java is nice enough, but it feels big bulky and clunky to me. That and they seem to have some serious naming convention issues. Sometimes things are capitalized, sometimes they're not--.net makes more sense. On 6/17/2011 6:49 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:There has been a lot of discussion on the list lately about Python. Why is that?Personally i much prefer Java. Its syntx makes a lot more sense and it is just as powerful, if not more. A command-line build system like ant can take most of the hassle out of working with Java classes. personally, I prefer this to Eclipse. BrailleBlaster is written in Java. I am using openjdk-1.6, Eclipse SWT and Apache Ant. 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