RE: Java And Windows Executable Question
- From: "Katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 19:25:15 -0400
You see, what the heck's wrong with these people? What's wrong with having
to download one extra package that will make things a bit more accessible.
I mean, when it comes to most books, and you are learning to program on your
own time like I am in .net, you are taught how to make your program
accessible. And another thing, for more accessibility and less coding, use
a scripting language such as AutoIt in your Java programs since they are
very powerful, and can save you much Java code.
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 7:09 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Java And Windows Executable Question
Jim,
Yes, Eclipse is written in java and does require a java runtime. What makes
Eclipse more accessible than some other java vbased applications is that the
core IDE is written using a GUI package called SWT instead of using java's
own swing component. The swt GUI package uses the native components of a
given platform. For example, in swt a button on a Windows machine is a
regular Windows button. Swing basically paints something that looks like a
vutton and provides properties and events to handle the actions. If everyone
would switch their apps over to swt, we'd probably have a much easier time
with java software access. However, a lot of the existing software simply
uses the swing GUI since it comes as part of the core java package. From a
java perspective, you certainly don't have to distribute the source in order
for others to execute your code. In fact, one of the early catch phrases of
java was write once, run anywhere.
----- Original Message -----
From: Homme, James <mailto:james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: Java And Windows Executable Question
Hi,
Confessional.
OK. I really feel stupid sometimes, but who cares. In all the years I've
been programming, I have never understood why you need an interpreter and
why you can just use an executable program, and so on. I know all kinds of
other stuff like if you write Python programs, unless you use something like
Iron Python that it's hard to give someone a program without letting them
have your source code. I could be wrong about that one, though, because I
remember something about .pyc files or some sort of intermediate files that
you can give someone. I've never really cared much about how it works except
when I think about the possibility of distributing software to someone and
not wanting them to get source code. Not that I have any secret code lying
around, but I sometimes think about maybe writing something to sell to
someone. When I think about that, I start thinking things like "Don't do it
in Perl or Python or Java, because they can get the source code." Stuff like
that. That kind of thinking is all mixed up with my unwillingness to use C++
because I'd rather let the machine do the garbage collection and whatever
else it does, and I want to just solve problems. I guess it comes from
having my roots in Cobol. I don't really care about this stuff on a deep,
technical, level. I'm just curious from a fifty-thousand foot level. For
some reason, getting all cozy with the machine stresses me out and makes me
want to run screaming into the street looking for chocolate.
End Confessional
Jim
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:06 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Java And Windows Executable Question
You might want to take a look at a package called Java Service wrapper. It
allows you to launch a java application as an executable or to even run it
as a Windows service. I have used it in both modes. One of the things I like
about the JSW is that you can configure it to trap the standard out and
standard err streams and write them to a file. You can even have JSW put a
date/time stamp on each console record. This is very helpful when attempting
to track down a problem which may have resulted from an unexpected runtime
exception. Just knowing the date/time stamp of exactly when the error
occured can help you better track down what was going on at the time.
----- Original Message -----
From: SDJNick <mailto:sdjnick@xxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: Java And Windows Executable Question
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: 02 August 2010 4:22 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Java And Windows Executable Question
Hi,
I am very sure that I have a misunderstanding about this, so please correct
me. I was once under the impression that you couldn't make a Java program
that was an .exe Windows executable, but Eclipse is a Windows executable.
How does this work?
Thanks.
Jim
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