Hi Teddy, In a single line text field, you can't arrow up or down, but that's expected. The software forces you to use Tab or Shift+Tab to move away from the field. That's not a problem, though, because you do that in Windows outside of the web environment anyway. In multiple line text fields, once you have taken a new line with the Enter key, you can move up and down through the field. This also mirrows Windows behavior. In list fields, you have to remember to use Alt+Down to open the field. This key strok mirrows Windows behavior. Since I was used to Forms mode, i had something to unlearn, which initially made it harder for me. If I had used System Access first, I would think JAWS was harder to use. It's all in how you look at it. Thanks. Jim James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 "it is only possible to live happily ever after on a day-to-day basis." -- Margaret Bonnano Highmark internal only: Consider Usability Engineering On Your Next Project or release. http://highwire.highmark.com/sites/iwov/hwt093/ "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxx To om> programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: cc programmingblind- bounce@freelists. Subject org Re: JFW keymap like orca keymap? 04/10/2008 09:50 AM Please respond to programmingblind@ freelists.org Ok, in that case the keys won't work for other functions when the cursor is on a form field... Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: Re: JFW keymap like orca keymap? > Hi Teddy, > I tried a screen reader called System Access, which doesn't have a Forms > mode. It determines some how that the cursor is on a form field and makes > it so that the normal typing keys allow you to enter data into the field. > It's nice once you get used to it. > > Jim > > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 > > "it is only possible to live happily ever after on a day-to-day basis." -- > Margaret Bonnano > > Highmark internal only: Consider Usability Engineering On Your Next > Project > or release. http://highwire.highmark.com/sites/iwov/hwt093/ > > > > "Octavian > Rasnita" > <orasnita@xxxxxxx To > om> programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent by: cc > programmingblind- > bounce@freelists. Subject > org Re: JFW keymap like orca keymap? > > > 04/10/2008 08:33 > AM > > > Please respond to > programmingblind@ > freelists.org > > > > > > > Window Eyes has (unfortunately) this kind of key layout. > I heard that it can be also set to use Jaws key layout though... > > But by the way, how can Orca allow the user type in the form fields if it > doesn't have a "forms mode"? > Doesn't it use the letter keys as shortcuts for other functions, like > jumping to previous/next table, form, field, link, list when the focus is > on > a form field? > > Octavian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Dalton" <d.dalton@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "blind programming" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Linux for blind > general Discussion" <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:38 PM > Subject: JFW keymap like orca keymap? > > >> Hi, >> >> I sadly had to use a windows box today (Not at home...) and needed to use > >> JAWS. I didn't have a choice on what I could use since my school only has > >> windows computers. >> >> Anyway I was wondering is there away to change the 'Jaws" keymap so the >> numpad is like the orca numpad? >> So for example 8 == sayline 7 == priorline 9 == nextline etc... >> So all the keymaps are the same? >> >> And then how about for Internet explorer? I think they are ok, but I have > >> to press enter on form fields for some reason... I don't have to do this >> with orca... >> Anyway if someone has a keymap for the numpad please let me know. >> Or how can I do this? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Daniel Dalton >> >> http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ >> <d.dalton@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind