Re: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices?
- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:30:51 +0300
Yes it was the same in case of MBrola project. They also offered a free program
that could be used for recording speech, but it was not accessible for the
blind.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: black ares
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices?
a theory exists, but as a theory has no implementations and no indication how
to implement.
More than that it can not give any indication about implementing a voice.
Because there evry one uses his search for phoneme algorithm
his concatenation algorithm
and so on.
And you have a lot of choices
from the worst where you record any kind of sound in a language keep them in
waves file and when you receive a text you parse it and search for sounds,
concatenate them and play them.
to any better algorithm.
I am now researching for creating a romanian voice using formants.
But also here I have problems, because
I found no software accessible to help me to get out from a sound the
frequences or the sine relations so I will have to implement a piece of soft to
get out these informations from sound.
There is a soft praat but I didn't managed to use it.
The guy who work on espeak recomends it, but...
See you latter
Black Ares
----- Original Message -----
From: Octavian Rasnita
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices?
Hmm, it seems that voice synthesis is a pretty new field so all the good
companies that make voice sinthesizers made their own research in order to be
able to create their programs. So with other words, it is pretty hard to get
into this field.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Perry
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices?
Well don't believe that you can only have one voice active just because
that is the only way it has been implemented in Narrirator and in the control
panel. I have had multiple active with no problems. Espeak has its problems
because well its a free speech program and while I think its great someone is
working on one they obviously don't have all the skill behind the project.
As to your question to Eloquence it uses its own proprietary interface
like RealSpeak. They both have a SAPI 5 interface but when ever you can use a
speech engines proprietary interface you will have more control over the
speech. For example SAPI 5 really has no true control over the voices pitch.
You can set it dynamically but if you want to set and leave it one way you
can't really do that. while Realspeak, Cepstral, Neospeak, Lequendo, AT&T, and
Eloquence do have ways to set the pitch.
I don't know of any books on just speech unless your talking more theory
maybe they are out there I just haven't looked. There are rappers out there to
make using SAPI easier if you search but it really depends on what you want to
do and what your willing to pay.
Ken
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:39 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices?
Does anyone know what interface is used by Eloquence?
It is not SAPI 4 nor 5, and it works better than a SAPI voice.
The problem with the SAPI voices is that at a certain moment only a
single SAPI5 voice can be active, and in order to change the voice we need to
go into Control Panel/Speech, and changing the active voice there doesn't
always work.
For example, I've tried to use ESpeak sinthesizer, and I couldn't make it
active but only by deleting all others voices from the Registry.
And this was a problem also because Narrator doesn't work without those
MS made voices.
Does anyone know some books or tutorials for working with these things
under Windows? But of course, not MSDN, because it refers only to ways of
creating sinthesizers which are not used by any good company that creates
sinthesizers. Information about creating sinthesizers that work under Symbian
are also welcome.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: inthaneelf
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices?
as an extra idea, you may want to go back to
SAPI 4, and research both at MS, and on the web, (added note, if you
don't get it on Google, try web crawler, more than once, if I couldn't find it
on Google, I found it with a web crawler search)
there seems to have been more available for
SAPI 4 and it's agents, which might give you clues on how to approach
it in
SAPI 5.
just a thought for you folks,
inthane
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----- Original Message -----
From: black ares
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5
voices?
ehe!
it is not so easy even you want to make a concatenated voice not a
formant one...
I am trying now to understand how to make a voice for the language
from my country
I search for documentation, but it seems that this is a taboo subject
because I didn't find nothing how to code speach.
----- Original Message -----
From: alex
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:09 AM
Subject: Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices?
Well I was wondering,
Is there a program that will help you create Sapi5 voices?
Like something that you speak a number of letters into a microphone
then it gets an understanding of your voice and creates a sapi5 engine out of
it?
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