Re: Is it possible to do iPhone programming while completely blind?

Wish I could give them credit. Ok, E for effort on the accessible coding features, but hardly anyone uses them. And they can be held for the flash on there own web pages to be accessible, but there not.

Its the same with PDF's.So try is a to strong of word for them.

At 03:13 AM 3/29/2011, you wrote:
Sorry, but Adobe does take accessibility serious. They have funded NVDA development in the past and Flash applications to my knowledge provides means for making them accessible. A couple of times now I've interacted with Flash applets if you like online and even with an old JFW 8.0 they were accessible. Also, Adobe Reader has native support for reading PDF files and the option to save to text. In short, give them some credit :-) they are trying.

On 3/29/2011 6:17 AM, black ares wrote:
how ever, Adobe don't seems to care very much about the accessibility of his tools.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:36 PM
Subject: RE: Is it possible to do iPhone programming while completely blind?


Be my guest

I have no idea nore would I write a hello world in flash.

Ken

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What about using Adobe Flash CS5?
They allow you to convert flash programs to the iphone platform.

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
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Coding in objective c is not the problem.  The problem is the interface
builder in xcode.  You can fight and get some crappy dialog test program
going but if you're trying to create software for the IPhone and you don't
have someone to do the GUI you will not be able to get very far.  If your
coding for the mac your choices are better because there is an accessible
way of doing things.  So far that is not the case for IPhone.  I am not
saying you cannot code things but it is not something you will have much
luck with if your totally blind.  Another thing to know is that you have to
have a Mac to code for the IPhone unless you use Titanium but the problem
with Titanium is it is a java tool and not accessible with 64 bit machines
because of the access bridge.  All though that might be different now that
the new access bridge is out.

Ken


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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DaShiell, Jude
T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 3:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Is it possible to do iPhone programming while completely blind?

I have no direct knowledge of Objective C so can't answer that question.
I asked what language iPhone used as its native language and got this
information back on aiphones mailing list.  Probably a good question for
me to ask and have answered before I ask a long standing friend to do
some research for me is what hardware platform is expected to be put to
use doing the programming?  That may or may not make a difference.  My
long standing friend is busy but will help out as she has a chance
provided intelligent questions come her way so I want to have the bases
covered before contacting her.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 14:48
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Subject: RE: Is it possible to do iPhone programming while completely
blind?

Hi,
Does that translate to yes or no?

Thanks.

Jim

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Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 2:33 PM
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blind?

iPhone uses Objective C as its native language.  Doing accessible
programming requires Objective C and compliance with Cocoa standards.

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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:41
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Subject: Is it possible to do iPhone programming while completely blind?

Is it possible to do iPhone programming when completely blind? My
understanding is I will need to buy a mac. My experience with macs
consists of going through part of the voiceover tutorial and learning
just enough to add my self as a user on my friends computer using
voiceover. Any information on what type of System would be best for
iPhone programming is appreciated.
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