RE: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?
- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:55:13 -0700
Hi Jess, Inthane and others,
Personally, I suggest that you first talk to your professor to see if he or
she can describe the actual chart. If not, ask your classmate to describe
what's in the book. If nothing works, then you might need either an
accessible version of the textbook 9is it The Big C++?) or an alternative
book that deals with almost the same subject. In my case, I usually ask my
TA's professor and classmates to describe the input and output of the chart
so that I can get a picture of how it is done.
Hope this helps...
Cheers,
Joseph
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 12:42 PM
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Subject: Re: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?
hi,
1. get with the schools disabled students or tutorial center and see what
they can do to assist you with this; 2. try to find the book at recording
for the blind and dyslexics website; 3. see if you can pair up with a
classmate for mutual aid; 4. talk to the instructor about this problem,
making sure he understands exactly what the problem is; 5. acquire a scanner
and badger the local vocational rehabilitation office for a copy of Openbook
or Kurzweil or spend the 200 dollars on abbey fine reader, which is the
heart of Kurzweil without all the fancies; 6. find out the publisher of your
book, and phone or Email them with a brief but complete synopsis of your
situation and ask them for a fully accessible copy of the text book (include
the fact that "see figure 1" is not accessible since the reason your asking
for an accessible book is you can't see! the bloody figure 1!).
these are how one handles college courses in any combination that is needed
it's up to the school to make things as fair and accessible as is reasonable
for you!, and you don't have to let them dictate what is reasonable, you can
push until it really is fair.
HTH,
elf
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jes" <theeternalkid@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?
Okay, what is a simple programming for creating an IPO chart, that is
accessible? Thanks. I'll try and give it a shot. It'll be hard though
because my text book does not describe the figures in plain text. For
example, they'll say, figure 1.13 shows what the following program psuedo
code will look like. Then of course the figure is not described. So how can
I work with that?
Thanks.
Jes
On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:06 PM, qubit wrote:
> I think trying to do it and then running into a barrier is better than
> ducking out because of blindness, in which case you'll never know your
> limitations.
> Of course, if you try you may well succeed, which is even better.
> --le
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:02 AM
> Subject: RE: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?
>
>
> Hi,
> Personally, from my experiences, we the blind people sometimes need to
> recognize our limits. In the end, the whole point of this is to find
> alternative ways of accomplishing things; thus, personally, if it is just
> using pseudo code (writing your code using English), then go ahead...
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jes
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:56 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?
>
> Joseph,
> Thanks for the help. I'll probably just turn in psudo code, since that's
> what the book primarily uses anyway. Does it sound like I'm cutting
> corners
> or trying to use excuses to get out of hard work, using my blindness as an
> excuse? Be honest! Thanks.
> Jes
>
> On Jun 27, 2010, at 11:48 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>
>> Very interesting. Many thanks.
>>
>>
>> Signed by Chris Hallsworth
>> E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>
>> On 27/06/2010 16:43, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> Hi Chris and list,
>>> My apologies for misinformation... Just checked out Wikipedia. Actually,
> IPO
>>> stands for "Input Processing Output" - the list of things required to
>>> get
>>> input for a program, process it, then output it. A psudo C++ would look
>>> like:
>>> * Input: Some kind of an input mechanism to get information from a user
> e.g.
>>> cin>> data, ifstream fin(test.txt); and so on.
>>> * Processing it: using whatever algorithms and data to process this
>>> information e.g. using a while loop for getting guesses for a guessing
> game,
>>> using a temporary dynamic variable to copy one vector to another and so
> on.
>>> * Output: How the information is presented to the user e.g. cout, using
>>> ofstream object, etc.
>>> That chart... I'm not sure - unless if you can create some kind of a
> table
>>> routine.
>>> A pseudo code would look like this (in hypothesis):
>>> // Get user input:
>>> // Asking user what type of input it is and what the program needs to do
>>> with that data.
>>> Input I; // The input information from the user or another location.
>>> Process p; // The container for storing processes required to perform an
>>> action.
>>> Output o; // The ouput container.
>>> // Gather input and the process, evaluate the two data types, then
>>> return
>>> the output result:
>>> Output gather_input(input I, process p);
>>> // After the processing is done, store the return value of the
> gather-input
>>> function as an output:
>>> O = gather_input(I, p);
>>> // Now create a table to store these data values:
>>> // The first column would have the input, the next one would store the
>>> process, then the last column would output the actual output result.
>>> // For ease of usage, this would be written as a function as follows:
>>> Void print_ipo();
>>> {
>>> Cout<< I<< ", "<< p<< ", "<< o<< endl;}
>>> If you want to work with multiple IPO scenarios, try creating a custom
> IPO
>>> class, then use a vector of IPO objects (with IPO pointers), like:
>>> Class IPO
>>> {
>>> Private:
>>> String input; // The input info.
>>> String process; // The processing part.
>>> String output; // The output result.
>>> Public:
>>> // Anything you need, such as constructors, destructors (if there needs
> to
>>> be a derived class) and useful accessors and mutators...
>>> };
>>> Vector<IPO> assignment(10; // Given that if we want to work with ten
>>> IPO
>>> objects.
>>> // or
>>> IPO * ipo_ptr = new IPO[5]; // If you need to work with five IPO objects
>>> stored as a dynamic array
>>> In case of the second declaration, because they are dynamically
> allocated,
>>> you need to provide a routine to deallocate it using "delete" operator
>>> as
>>> follows:
>>> Delete [] ipo_ptr;
>>> Well, hope this helps...
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris
> hallsworth
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:13 AM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?
>>>
>>> Ar right, thanks for the information.
>>>
>>>
>>> Signed by Chris Hallsworth
>>> E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>>
>>> On 27/06/2010 16:10, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> An IPO chart... Well, if it is related to file i/o operation, you can
> try
>>>> using ofstream to write a preformatted string to the target file to be
>>>> displayed later. If not, then....
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jess
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:00 AM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am taking a C plus plus course and one of my assignments in the book
> is
>>> to
>>>> create an IPO chart. The file must have a .cpp extension on the end of
> it
>>>> and I'm wondering if it is possible to create an IPO chart using a
> screen
>>>> reader, like system access? Should I ask my professor to exempt me from
>>> this
>>>> assignment? Will it be to visual for me to accomplish it?
>>>> Help would be appreciated. Thanks.
>>>> Jes
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