Re: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?

  • From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:41:53 -0700

hi,

1. get with the schools disabled students or tutorial center and see what they can do to assist you with this; 2. try to find the book at recording for the blind and dyslexics website; 3. see if you can pair up with a classmate for mutual aid; 4. talk to the instructor about this problem, making sure he understands exactly what the problem is; 5. acquire a scanner and badger the local vocational rehabilitation office for a copy of Openbook or Kurzweil or spend the 200 dollars on abbey fine reader, which is the heart of Kurzweil without all the fancies; 6. find out the publisher of your book, and phone or Email them with a brief but complete synopsis of your situation and ask them for a fully accessible copy of the text book (include the fact that "see figure 1" is not accessible since the reason your asking for an accessible book is you can't see! the bloody figure 1!).

these are how one handles college courses in any combination that is needed

it's up to the school to make things as fair and accessible as is reasonable for you!, and you don't have to let them dictate what is reasonable, you can push until it really is fair.

HTH,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jes" <theeternalkid@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?


Okay, what is a simple programming for creating an IPO chart, that is accessible? Thanks. I'll try and give it a shot. It'll be hard though because my text book does not describe the figures in plain text. For example, they'll say, figure 1.13 shows what the following program psuedo code will look like. Then of course the figure is not described. So how can I work with that?
Thanks.
Jes

On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:06 PM, qubit wrote:

I think trying to do it and then running into a barrier is better than
ducking out because of blindness, in which case you'll never know your
limitations.
Of course, if you try you may well succeed, which is even better.
--le
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?


Hi,
Personally, from my experiences, we the blind people sometimes need to
recognize our limits. In the end, the whole point of this is to find
alternative ways of accomplishing things; thus, personally, if it is just
using pseudo code (writing your code using English), then go ahead...
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jes
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:56 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?

Joseph,
Thanks for the help. I'll probably just turn in psudo code, since that's
what the book primarily uses anyway. Does it sound like I'm cutting corners
or trying to use excuses to get out of hard work, using my blindness as an
excuse? Be honest! Thanks.
Jes

On Jun 27, 2010, at 11:48 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:

Very interesting. Many thanks.


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On 27/06/2010 16:43, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Chris and list,
My apologies for misinformation... Just checked out Wikipedia. Actually,
IPO
stands for "Input Processing Output" - the list of things required to get
input for a program, process it, then output it. A psudo C++ would look
like:
* Input: Some kind of an input mechanism to get information from a user
e.g.
cin>>  data, ifstream fin(test.txt); and so on.
* Processing it: using whatever algorithms and data to process this
information e.g. using a while loop for getting guesses for a guessing
game,
using a temporary dynamic variable to copy one vector to another and so
on.
* Output: How the information is presented to the user e.g. cout, using
ofstream object, etc.
That chart... I'm not sure - unless if you can create some kind of a
table
routine.
A pseudo code would look like this (in hypothesis):
// Get user input:
// Asking user what type of input it is and what the program needs to do
with that data.
Input I; // The input information from the user or another location.
Process p; // The container for storing processes required to perform an
action.
Output o; // The ouput container.
// Gather input and the process, evaluate the two data types, then return
the output result:
Output gather_input(input I, process p);
// After the processing is done, store the return value of the
gather-input
function as an output:
O = gather_input(I, p);
// Now create a table to store these data values:
// The first column would have the input, the next one would store the
process, then the last column would output the actual output result.
// For ease of usage, this would be written as a function as follows:
Void print_ipo();
{
Cout<<  I<<  ", "<<  p<<  ", "<<  o<<  endl;}
If you want to work with multiple IPO scenarios, try creating a custom
IPO
class, then use a vector of IPO objects (with IPO pointers), like:
Class IPO
{
Private:
String input; // The input info.
String process; // The processing part.
String output; // The output result.
Public:
// Anything you need, such as constructors, destructors (if there needs
to
be a derived class) and useful accessors and mutators...
};
Vector<IPO> assignment(10; // Given that if we want to work with ten IPO
objects.
// or
IPO * ipo_ptr = new IPO[5]; // If you need to work with five IPO objects
stored as a dynamic array
In case of the second declaration, because they are dynamically
allocated,
you need to provide a routine to deallocate it using "delete" operator as
follows:
Delete [] ipo_ptr;
Well, hope this helps...
Cheers,
Joseph
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris
hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:13 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?

Ar right, thanks for the information.


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On 27/06/2010 16:10, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
An IPO chart... Well, if it is related to file i/o operation, you can
try
using ofstream to write a preformatted string to the target file to be
displayed later. If not, then....
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jess
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:00 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: I P O charts in Visual Studio 2010?

Hi all,

I am taking a C plus plus course and one of my assignments in the book
is
to
create an IPO chart. The file must have a .cpp extension on the end of
it
and I'm wondering if it is possible to create an IPO chart using a
screen
reader, like system access? Should I ask my professor to exempt me from
this
assignment? Will it be to visual for me to accomplish it?
Help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Jes

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