RE: Help With Sounds

  • From: Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:18:46 -0400

Hi,
This is good news. It would be great to have some of this stuff in
Linux.
Thanks
Storm
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On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 22:45 -0400, Ken Perry wrote:
> Currently everything is just for windows all though our Braille plus
> is all linux.  I have a mac at work and so do three other coders and
> we are looking into to porting some of our software.  All of our early
> trade books for Braille software and a pretty cool elementary Braille
> Tactile training course which hooks to hard ware also works on the Mac
> so we are drifting into cross platform.
> 
>  
> 
> Ken
> 
>  
> 
> 
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Storm
> Dragon
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:04 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Help With Sounds
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Ken,
> Does APH make cross platform software or just for Windows?
> Thanks
> Storm
> 
>  
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> On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 19:14 -0400, Ken Perry wrote: 
> 
> 
>  
> You see you don't even know APH we do not charge for software updates.
> Shrug I know how you feel and I think you're a bit prejudiced because of
> other companies.  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:41 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Help With Sounds
>  
> Sure, and if you enjoy living in the ghetto blindness space, then that's
> fine. I love it, frankly, 10 to 20X margins, only a few
> tech conferences a year, the most you have is a few releases per financial
> year and you can usually charge the user for some of
> those, etc, etc ... It's great. I love that market. Exploiting blind people
> is the way to go if you want some cash, my friend. It's
> as easy as apple pie, but that doesn't make it better.
>  
> You have short-term advantages for ghetto blind products written
> specifically for the blind. Very little learning curve, easier
> navigation for a little while, etc, etc, and then you realize that this
> product is written by an industry who doesn't have any
> capitalistic pressure on it. People, have, to buy from them, so they can
> continue releasing complete garbage, charging an arm and a
> leg, and oh, I love this part, we should be grateful because it's a company
> incurring such costs to develop in the blindness space.
>  
> And I swear, if you show me a company that has that level of cost, I'll show
> you the most incompetent set of idiots ever in charge
> of a product. I don't care if they are nice, or good people. That makes me
> want to have a beer with them, but the fact that they are
> such incompetent tech managers makes me want to throw said beer in their
> face.
>  
> So here's an idea, take a tenth of those dollars, and make some real
> applications used by real people in the real world accessible.
>  
> You mentioned Outlook. Show me a blindness application that works half as
> well for the things Outlook can do.
>  
> You mentioned editors. For IDE's, I use eclipse, when I need something more
> than wordpad, not a proprietary editor, and I actually
> prefer it to anything I've used, including Boxer.
>  
> There's word processors ... Show me anything that works better than MS Word
> for the kinds of things it supports, for the blind.
>  
> Same for presentation software: there's PowerPoint.
>  
> And so on
>  
> Take care,
> Sina
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:28 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Help With Sounds
>  
> I like to argue this.  If  you actually get good software written for the
> blind it's much better than software adapted for the
> blind.  Unfortunately that means its more expensive but then look at gold
> wave, dreamweaver, Adobie, and the list could go on I will
> not even list Microsoft because we all know they are um well interesting
> when it comes to pricing their software have you tried
> buying Outlook?  Don't give me that use thunderbird crap I have to actually
> get my appointments sometime this week.  Some times its
> better just to buck up and pay for software that is easy to use so
>  
> you don't have to spend time and money fighting with it to make it work the
> way it should have when you got it.  Hell I am even
> working on an extension for Safari to try to make that piece of shit work
> better.
>  
> Ken
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:11 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Help With Sounds
>  
> Let me be less kind, haha. Anything written in the blindness market.
>  
> Other industries do actually know how to write software.
>  
> Take care,
> Sina
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:59 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Help With Sounds
>  
> When did Sina become a lousy communist?
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
>  
> > There is also Reaper, and some other programs as well.
> > 
> > $200 for anything other than an entire operating system is not only
> ludicrous, but down right despicable.
> > 
> > I'd laugh, but I'm too busy being sick to my stomach at such an insane
> price for anything.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:27 PM
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Help With Sounds
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sound recorder (SR) by APH is my tool of choice.  It is $200 but it is 
> > the most accessible and coolest sound tool made for blind folks.  If 
> > you
> don't have a volunteer yet let me know and I can see what I can wack out.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ken   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of QuentinC
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:04 AM
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Help With Sounds
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You could use programs such as audacity to make that. It's not very
> difficult but take some time.
> > 
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