Hi, This is good news. It would be great to have some of this stuff in Linux. Thanks Storm -- Registered Linux user number 508465: http://counter.li.org/ Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ Get yourself a Frostbox: http://www.frostbitesystems.com/ PULL MUH FANGER! http://is.gd/bowEl On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 22:45 -0400, Ken Perry wrote: > Currently everything is just for windows all though our Braille plus > is all linux. I have a mac at work and so do three other coders and > we are looking into to porting some of our software. All of our early > trade books for Braille software and a pretty cool elementary Braille > Tactile training course which hooks to hard ware also works on the Mac > so we are drifting into cross platform. > > > > Ken > > > > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Storm > Dragon > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:04 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: Help With Sounds > > > > > > Hi Ken, > Does APH make cross platform software or just for Windows? > Thanks > Storm > > > -- > Registered Linux user number 508465: > http://counter.li.org/ > Follow me on Twitter: > http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 > My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: > http://www.stormdragon.us/ > Get yourself a Frostbox: > http://www.frostbitesystems.com/ > PULL MUH FANGER! > http://is.gd/bowEl > > On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 19:14 -0400, Ken Perry wrote: > > > > You see you don't even know APH we do not charge for software updates. > Shrug I know how you feel and I think you're a bit prejudiced because of > other companies. > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:41 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: Help With Sounds > > Sure, and if you enjoy living in the ghetto blindness space, then that's > fine. I love it, frankly, 10 to 20X margins, only a few > tech conferences a year, the most you have is a few releases per financial > year and you can usually charge the user for some of > those, etc, etc ... It's great. I love that market. Exploiting blind people > is the way to go if you want some cash, my friend. It's > as easy as apple pie, but that doesn't make it better. > > You have short-term advantages for ghetto blind products written > specifically for the blind. Very little learning curve, easier > navigation for a little while, etc, etc, and then you realize that this > product is written by an industry who doesn't have any > capitalistic pressure on it. People, have, to buy from them, so they can > continue releasing complete garbage, charging an arm and a > leg, and oh, I love this part, we should be grateful because it's a company > incurring such costs to develop in the blindness space. > > And I swear, if you show me a company that has that level of cost, I'll show > you the most incompetent set of idiots ever in charge > of a product. I don't care if they are nice, or good people. That makes me > want to have a beer with them, but the fact that they are > such incompetent tech managers makes me want to throw said beer in their > face. > > So here's an idea, take a tenth of those dollars, and make some real > applications used by real people in the real world accessible. > > You mentioned Outlook. Show me a blindness application that works half as > well for the things Outlook can do. > > You mentioned editors. For IDE's, I use eclipse, when I need something more > than wordpad, not a proprietary editor, and I actually > prefer it to anything I've used, including Boxer. > > There's word processors ... Show me anything that works better than MS Word > for the kinds of things it supports, for the blind. > > Same for presentation software: there's PowerPoint. > > And so on > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:28 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: Help With Sounds > > I like to argue this. If you actually get good software written for the > blind it's much better than software adapted for the > blind. Unfortunately that means its more expensive but then look at gold > wave, dreamweaver, Adobie, and the list could go on I will > not even list Microsoft because we all know they are um well interesting > when it comes to pricing their software have you tried > buying Outlook? Don't give me that use thunderbird crap I have to actually > get my appointments sometime this week. Some times its > better just to buck up and pay for software that is easy to use so > > you don't have to spend time and money fighting with it to make it work the > way it should have when you got it. Hell I am even > working on an extension for Safari to try to make that piece of shit work > better. > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:11 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: Help With Sounds > > Let me be less kind, haha. Anything written in the blindness market. > > Other industries do actually know how to write software. > > Take care, > Sina > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:59 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Help With Sounds > > When did Sina become a lousy communist? > On Sep 8, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Sina Bahram wrote: > > > There is also Reaper, and some other programs as well. > > > > $200 for anything other than an entire operating system is not only > ludicrous, but down right despicable. > > > > I'd laugh, but I'm too busy being sick to my stomach at such an insane > price for anything. > > > > Take care, > > Sina > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:27 PM > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: RE: Help With Sounds > > > > > > > > Sound recorder (SR) by APH is my tool of choice. It is $200 but it is > > the most accessible and coolest sound tool made for blind folks. If > > you > don't have a volunteer yet let me know and I can see what I can wack out. > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of QuentinC > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:04 AM > > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: Help With Sounds > > > > > > > > You could use programs such as audacity to make that. It's not very > difficult but take some time. > > > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >