Well Ken, perhaps if you are right and if technology continues in the direction it is going, we will all have our own copy of the world in our cell phones, and so the whole cloud concept will be moot. (Come to think of it, if everyone has a snapshot of the world's data, and a world running on his cell phone, who would he be talking to when he makes a phone call? -- oh well, as a friend used to put in a tag line: "I live in my own little world, but it's ok, they know me here...") --le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:53 AM Subject: RE: GNU Accessibility Statement Online I have to also say that while I guess everyone else said take this line out and please don't invite users to do something on a server that they could conceivably do on their own computers. I also want to put my two cents in for example most people don't even realize that OPRA is a server based technology and it is the widest used web browser in the world soon to even be wider since IPhone will have theirs out soon. Not only that but not long from now OPRA will be 100% accessible. The fact is everything that happens in Opra is server based. So this is a hard statement for me to even imagine because servers are becoming the new thick clients where we are starting to be able to carry things like Google maps and client web browsers and client spread sheets which could be full access front ends. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:03 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: GNU Accessibility Statement Online The following statement really got to me: "and please don't invite users to do something on a server that they could conceivably do on their own computers." I understand that Stallmann is one of the leading activists against cloud computing, but why on earth are you allowing such an agenda to creap into a statement on accessibility? In my opinion, this one statement completely undermines the rest of the things you're trying to do. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:00 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: GNU Accessibility Statement Online Hi, For a couple of months, Richard Stallman and I have been working on the GNU Accessibility Statement (GAS) which takes a no nonsense approach to endorsing the rights of people with disabilities as regard software within the context of free software. I've never read a more strongly worded statement from any organization regarding software and people with disabilities. GAS also takes a strong stance on free software values but does not endorse any specific license, although we would like people to use GPL. You can read the statement at: http://www.gnu.org/accessibility/accessibility.html and send comments to me that we can consider for future revisions of the statement. Thanks, cdh __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind