RE: GNU Accessibility Statement Online

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:16:51 -0400


We are both creating pdf and reading pdf on the Braille plus using  the free
accessible tools already out there so again I don't like that statement for
again the Braille + and Icon are Linux based.



Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:55 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: GNU Accessibility Statement Online

All of the Adobe accessibility improvements are, so far, Windows only. I
know they are saying they are also going to be available for Macintosh and
GNU/Linux and are even releasing an API so you can build your own player,
the Flash format is still proprietary and you cannot make an authoring tool
for it.

PDF is problematic off of Windows as well although Macintosh has a pretty
good and accessible reader that works pretty good  with well formed PDF.

A Windows mostly solution is not a way to promote freedom (with a lower case
"f").

 
On Mar 29, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Ken Perry wrote:

> This line is a flat out lie.
> 
> Silverlight is similar. PDF is also difficult; though there is free
software
> to view it, it does not support free access technology software. GNU PDF
> aims to do better.
> 
> I was in the Adobe open forum at CSUN and I have it recorded.  They use
NVDA
> to do all their testing now and it supports PDF better if not as well as
> JAWS  in.  According to the Adobe Accessibility crew which were at the
forum
> this is what they are shooting for is a free accessible solutions that
Jaws
> can follow or gw or who ever.  Furthermore the statement about Flash is
not
> as true as it used to be and according to the Adobe guys its only getting
> better.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:03 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: GNU Accessibility Statement Online
> 
> The following statement really got to me:
> 
> "and please don't invite users to do something on a server that they could
> conceivably do on their own computers."
> 
> I understand that Stallmann is one of the leading activists against cloud
> computing, but why on earth are you allowing such an
> agenda to creap into a statement on accessibility?
> 
> In my opinion, this one statement completely undermines the rest of the
> things you're trying to do.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
Hofstader
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:00 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: GNU Accessibility Statement Online
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For a couple of months, Richard Stallman and I have been working on the
GNU
> Accessibility Statement (GAS)  which takes a no nonsense
> approach to endorsing the rights of people with disabilities as regard
> software within the context of free software. I've never read
> a more strongly worded statement from any organization regarding software
> and people with disabilities.
> 
> GAS also takes a strong stance on free software values but does not
endorse
> any specific license, although we would like people to
> use GPL.
> 
> You can read the statement at:
> http://www.gnu.org/accessibility/accessibility.html
> and send comments to me that we can consider for future revisions of the
> statement.
> 
> Thanks,
> cdh
> 
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