Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA

black , you're fortunate, bro, a lot of people here have ended up
crashing their jaws otherwise.

cheers!
prateek agarwal.


On 10/15/10, black ares <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> ups, i've missed the word...
> :(
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 11:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>
>
> I bet you wouldn't come across this word even with a passsword
> generator.  Those things produce leters and numbers in an
> incomprehensible string every time I've used one.  something like
> q23q1r43j.  The "word that shall not be spoken"--God, tthat's so
> funny!--is too similar to a coherent word for any password generator
> to come up with it.  I imagine the same goes for any other words that
> crash a speech synthesizer.
>
>
> Alex M
>
>
> On 10/14/10, DaShiell, Jude T.  CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
> <jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Actually, weird strings show up all the time when doing password
>> generation
>> programs.  Since I'm doing something with ruby now for those that have it
>> here's a password generator in two lines of code.  Each time it's run a 14
>> character password is generated:
>>
>> 13.times { print (rand(126)+33).chr }.puts (rand(126)+33).chr
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 15:11
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>>
>> And there are more such words, and algorithms to produce words, that will
>> choke jaws, but I'm not sharing the details.  The strings are so weird
>> that
>>
>> it is unlikely they would be typed accidently, and of course, eloquence
>> doesn't seem to be supported much these days as a fair number of people
>> know
>>
>> some of the words.  I was surprised the one I heard first was put on
>> youtube -- a truely sinister sense of humor if you ask me, but of course
>> also funny. Maybe eloquence will be fixed now that the words are out.  Or
>> maybe it will become opensource??? As I said before, eloquence is used by
>> at
>>
>> least 2 big name screen readers and on talks, the cell phone screen
>> reader,
>>
>> and who knows where else.
>> --le
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Aubertin, Gerry" <gaubertin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:42 PM
>> Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>>
>>
>> Hello There:
>>
>>    For what it's worth; The Real Speak Solo Direct synthesizer that comes
>> with Jaws 10 and later does not crash when given the forbidden word. This
>> has got to be the weirdest bug I have ever come accross.
>>
>>    In my humble opinion, the Real Speak voices for Jaws has got to be the
>> greatest synthetic speech I have ever heard.
>>
>>    Also, according to the NVDA-PROJECT.ORG site there is now a human
>> sounding English voice for NVDA. I have not downloaded and installed it,
>> but
>>
>> I intend to some time. The place to download from is blocked by our
>> company
>>
>> (because it is uncatagorized) but one day I will wake up one of the
>> Corporate network guys and get his help to download the new NVDA voice.
>>
>>
>> Gerry Aubertin
>> Programmer/Analyst
>> Phone: (519) 271-4840 Ext. 8807
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rasmussen, Lloyd
>> [lras@xxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:13 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>>
>> Window-Eyes 7.2 with Eloquence also locks up on "the word which shall not
>> be
>>
>> spoken".  I have not tried entering it into a user dictionary, but this
>> should work.  Someone has also written an Eloquence script which perhaps
>> covers this case; I haven't tried it out.
>>
>> Older versions of Window-Eyes had an unlocked version of SAPI 4 Eloquence,
>> so they should also work with NVDA.
>>
>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Project Engineer
>> National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped
>> Library of Congress   202-707-0535
>> http://www.loc.gov/nls
>> The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of
>> the Library of Congress, NLS.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:26 AM
>> To: Rasmussen, Lloyd; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>>
>> Hi -- to guard against this word, I added an entry for the word in the
>> jaws
>>
>> default dictionary.  It is possible to do this without locking up if you
>> are
>>
>> careful and don't do a sayline as you are typing the entry.  Go to the
>> dictionary manager with insert+d, type control+shift+d to get to the
>> global
>>
>> dictionary, press the add button and follow the prompts.  I put there an
>> entry with the word as the dictionary and the replacement string as a jaws
>> sound effect followed by the offending word broken into syllables.
>> This completely solves the problem -- well, there is one catch: if you
>> enter
>>
>> the dictionary and arrow down through the entries, jaws will try to speak
>> the word untranslated, so be sure to avoid doing this without changing
>> synthesizers in jaws first.
>>
>> I am running jaws 11.0.1461 on XP pro.
>>
>> You should avoid putting the word in emails for the sake of those who
>> haven't gotten jaws shielded from it.
>>
>> Again, the problem is not jaws, it is eloquence.  In fact, I run talks
>> with
>>
>> eloquence on my cell phone, and talks locks up on that word to the point
>> that I need to reboot the phone to get back to a workable state.
>>
>> Happy hacking.
>> --le
>>
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