Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA

  • From: Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:49:33 -0500

I bet you wouldn't come across this word even with a passsword
generator.  Those things produce leters and numbers in an
incomprehensible string every time I've used one.  something like
q23q1r43j.  The "word that shall not be spoken"--God, tthat's so
funny!--is too similar to a coherent word for any password generator
to come up with it.  I imagine the same goes for any other words that
crash a speech synthesizer.


Alex M


On 10/14/10, DaShiell, Jude T.  CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
<jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Actually, weird strings show up all the time when doing password generation
> programs.  Since I'm doing something with ruby now for those that have it
> here's a password generator in two lines of code.  Each time it's run a 14
> character password is generated:
>
> 13.times { print (rand(126)+33).chr }.puts (rand(126)+33).chr
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 15:11
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>
> And there are more such words, and algorithms to produce words, that will
> choke jaws, but I'm not sharing the details.  The strings are so weird that
>
> it is unlikely they would be typed accidently, and of course, eloquence
> doesn't seem to be supported much these days as a fair number of people know
>
> some of the words.  I was surprised the one I heard first was put on
> youtube -- a truely sinister sense of humor if you ask me, but of course
> also funny. Maybe eloquence will be fixed now that the words are out.  Or
> maybe it will become opensource??? As I said before, eloquence is used by at
>
> least 2 big name screen readers and on talks, the cell phone screen reader,
>
> and who knows where else.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aubertin, Gerry" <gaubertin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:42 PM
> Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>
>
> Hello There:
>
>    For what it's worth; The Real Speak Solo Direct synthesizer that comes
> with Jaws 10 and later does not crash when given the forbidden word. This
> has got to be the weirdest bug I have ever come accross.
>
>    In my humble opinion, the Real Speak voices for Jaws has got to be the
> greatest synthetic speech I have ever heard.
>
>    Also, according to the NVDA-PROJECT.ORG site there is now a human
> sounding English voice for NVDA. I have not downloaded and installed it, but
>
> I intend to some time. The place to download from is blocked by our company
>
> (because it is uncatagorized) but one day I will wake up one of the
> Corporate network guys and get his help to download the new NVDA voice.
>
>
> Gerry Aubertin
> Programmer/Analyst
> Phone: (519) 271-4840 Ext. 8807
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> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rasmussen, Lloyd
> [lras@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:13 AM
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> Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>
> Window-Eyes 7.2 with Eloquence also locks up on "the word which shall not be
>
> spoken".  I have not tried entering it into a user dictionary, but this
> should work.  Someone has also written an Eloquence script which perhaps
> covers this case; I haven't tried it out.
>
> Older versions of Window-Eyes had an unlocked version of SAPI 4 Eloquence,
> so they should also work with NVDA.
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Project Engineer
> National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:26 AM
> To: Rasmussen, Lloyd; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>
> Hi -- to guard against this word, I added an entry for the word in the jaws
>
> default dictionary.  It is possible to do this without locking up if you are
>
> careful and don't do a sayline as you are typing the entry.  Go to the
> dictionary manager with insert+d, type control+shift+d to get to the global
>
> dictionary, press the add button and follow the prompts.  I put there an
> entry with the word as the dictionary and the replacement string as a jaws
> sound effect followed by the offending word broken into syllables.
> This completely solves the problem -- well, there is one catch: if you enter
>
> the dictionary and arrow down through the entries, jaws will try to speak
> the word untranslated, so be sure to avoid doing this without changing
> synthesizers in jaws first.
>
> I am running jaws 11.0.1461 on XP pro.
>
> You should avoid putting the word in emails for the sake of those who
> haven't gotten jaws shielded from it.
>
> Again, the problem is not jaws, it is eloquence.  In fact, I run talks with
>
> eloquence on my cell phone, and talks locks up on that word to the point
> that I need to reboot the phone to get back to a workable state.
>
> Happy hacking.
> --le
>
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