Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA

  • From: Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:31:00 -0500

I have ibm viavoice on my machine because I bought openbook 7.0.  NVDA
picks it up when I have it search for sapi 4 synths.  I can't imagine
why it would be illegal to use eloquence or viavoice with NVDA.  If
you buy a copy of the synth and you legitimately own it, why wouldn't
you be able to use it in whatever capacity you need to?  Viavoice is
only slightly diferent from eloquence.  I kind of like it more,
personally since it's a bit clearer and lends itself better to
inflection.  It used to make openbook crash though so, FS discontinued
its inclusion in version 8 and above opting instead for just plain old
eloquence  with those versions.  Is it also illegal to use NVDA with
the sapi 5 voices from nuance or cepstral?

Alex M


On 10/13/10, qubit <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> glad someone agrees with me...*smile*
> The speech is downright abbrasive.  But someone whose identity I don't
> remember sent me an email about how to get eloquence to work with NVDA,
> which I think is not quite legal, due to copyright, but pirated copies are
> out there somewhere.
> Eloquence is probably the most mature synth out there, but they still
> haven't fixed it so it won't lock up on the handful of strings that
> apparently still kill speech.  Go figure.
> --le
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>
>
> espeak by default, and nothing available  that's  similar to Eloquence.
> Which is my only real outstanding  gripe with it, which I wish I could
> get over, because I've always had a good laugh at people who got too
> hung up on synthesizer choice, but man... espeak is bad to my ears.
>
> On 10/13/2010 03:44 PM, Alphonso McFadden wrote:
>> which speech voice does it use?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>>
>>
>>> NVDA actually has quite a few of the same keystrokes/shortcuts as
>>> jaws, but it also has a few that I sometimes wish jaws has, like the
>>> ones that let you a bit more easily navigate parent/child controls, etc.
>>>
>>> My main use of NVDA is either as backup, or for different languages,
>>> but I also keep the portable version on my flash drives since it
>>> means I can quite easily work on other people's machines without any
>>> software installation.
>>>
>>> In other words, while I need/use jaws for lots of work tasks etc.,
>>> NVDA is definitely my second best choice, and it's getting better all
>>> the time - and it's _free_.
>>>
>>> Stay well
>>>
>>> Jacob Kruger
>>> Blind Biker
>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lafond, Eileen"
>>> <Eileen.Lafond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:56 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>>>
>>>
>>>> So what you are saying is that it will not have it's own shortcuts
>>>> as JAWS has mainly with the num pad, or maybe fewer short cuts.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>> DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:51 AM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>>>> Importance: Low
>>>>
>>>> Probably more efficient since it hasn't got the huge command set
>>>> jaws has got.  That means though you need to do more with windows
>>>> keyboard shortcuts though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lafond,
>>>> Eileen
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 13:47
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Does anyone know how efficient NVDA actually is as a screen reader?
>>>>
>>>> Eileen
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of demir
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:26 AM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>>>>
>>>> Very cool stuff:)
>>>> Jaws is Woldemort, Nvda is Harry:)
>>>>
>>>> Demir Ajvazi
>>>> Msn:
>>>> demir_zmaj@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Skype:
>>>> demir-2007
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerneels Roos" <kerneels@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  100 points for that one!!! Ha ha ha he he he ha ha ha!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/13/2010 8:35 AM, Hrvoje Katić wrote:
>>>>>>  HaHaHa that is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hrvoje
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13.10.2010 1:42, qubit wrote:
>>>>>>> For anyone who hasn't heard this one already, here's for your
>>>>>>> amusement:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://goo.gl/nAOM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --le
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