Re: Free TTS engines

I'd like to know what the rates mean -- I have noticed that the rates in 
words per minute are different for different synths with the same percent 
rate.  So 65% using a SAPI5 voice is slower than the same rate for 
eloquence.
But as I said, I prefer eloquence over SAPI5 or realspeak or whatever.
Whatever your favorite configuration is, crank up the volume and happy 
listening!
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Free TTS engines


By the way, I used to pay attention only to the percentage, but I've seen
that there is another number there.

Jaws tells that I use 111, 64%. Does anyone what it means (if it means
something) 111?

Words per minute, or something like that?

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob J." <rjustice004@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Free TTS engines


>I also have mine set at 85 or 40%.  I could understand it almost always at
>a
> faster rate but this rate makes re-reading somethings necessary far less
> often.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>
>
> yes, mine is set at 86/41 percent, I could move it up a couple points now,
> just haven't yet
>
> regards,
> inthane
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>
>
>>I have mine on 65 with punctuation set to all, which a lot of people don't
>> like, but since I listen to a lot of computer science mail in which
>> punctuation is significant, it is what I have gotten used to.  Still it's
>> kind of a pain to listen to "we apostrophy l l" and other contractions
>> even
>> if it is at high speed.  I'm impressed that you have it on 64 with
>> english
>> not being your native language.
>> --le
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 5:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>>
>>
>> I am using Jaws with Eloquence, and In the menu
>> Options/Basics/Voices/Global  adjustment, I have set the rate to 64%.
>>
>> This is because english is not my native language, but maybe other users
>> use
>> a higher rate.
>>
>> Octavian
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andreas Stefik" <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>>
>>
>>> People talk quite a bit about how fast they have the TTS engines going.
>>>
>>> Would anyone mind posting a couple soundfiles of your screenreader
>>> reading computer code at your "usual" pace? I'm curious how fast folks
>>> typically have it going. I suspect that, in our pilot studies, we have
>>> the TTS engine going way slower than you folks do.
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2007 2:38 PM, tribble <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Should have read ahead -- thanks Lloyd and all.  I agree.
>>>> --le
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <lras@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:41 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: Free TTS engines
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Natural Voices, VoiceText, Loquento and other modern synthesizers are
>>>> concatenative, requiring speech segments to be looked up, best match
>>>> found,
>>>> then interpolated in order to be modeled on a particular human voice
>>>> and
>>>> sound natural.  To adjust their speed, you have to do some more
>>>> interpolation and matching, as you do for time-scale modification of
>>>> natural
>>>> speech, and this begins to get rough and less intelligible as you go to
>>>> twice normal speed or faster.
>>>>
>>>> The older synthesizers, such as DecTalk, Eloquence and the SSI263
>>>> speech
>>>> chip used by Artic, Braille 'n Speak, Votrax, Accent, etc. are formant
>>>> synthesizers.  They work on a vocal tract model, and the parameters can
>>>> be
>>>> varied systematically to alter the speed without creating quite as much
>>>> distortion or losing consonants.  Of course they don't sound as
>>>> natural,
>>>> but
>>>> this is mostly a hindrance to people who don't spend days and days
>>>> listening
>>>> to them, for whom speed is more valuable than naturalness.  The other
>>>> advantage of the vocal-tract synthesizers is that they don't require as
>>>> much
>>>> data to be handled, so they work better for echoing individual
>>>> keystrokes
>>>> than the ponderous concatenative synthesizers.  Even on modern
>>>> computers,
>>>> these speed and responsiveness issues are important.
>>>>
>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, Maryland
>>>> Home:  http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>> Work:  http://www.loc.gov/nls
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-
>>>> > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas Stefik
>>>> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:34 PM
>>>> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>>>> >
>>>> > Peter says:
>>>> >
>>>> > > I have several of these voices.
>>>> > > Wonderful sound for reading but to slow for use in a Gui.
>>>> >
>>>> > I say
>>>> >
>>>> > You talking about the AT &T ones? Can't you just speed them up? I
>>>> > know
>>>> > that, on windows at least, there is a slider bar you can adjust.
>>>> > Maybe
>>>> > you mean something else, though. Might not be true for every OS, or
>>>> > every voice though. I readily admit I'm not an expert on such things.
>>>> >
>>>> > Inthane says:
>>>> >
>>>> > I have used the AT&T voices and find them to be the best of the TTS
>>>> > voices
>>>> > that I have herd, (well, except for there attempt to make one sound
>>>> > like a
>>>> > Scotsman, ouch! LOL),
>>>> >
>>>> > I say
>>>> >
>>>> > lol, yaa the Scotsman is hilarious. Well, I guess it's a tough
>>>> > decision on what to get.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for the thoughts, all.
>>>> >
>>>> > Andreas
>>>> >
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