Re: Free TTS engines

I don't know if it's words a minute -- I think 111 sounds kind of slow but I 
don't know what the number means if not WPM.  As fast as I sometimes crank 
up the speed I'm wondering if it should be measured in syllables per second. 
Now that would be interesting! :-O
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: Free TTS engines


Yeah probably, words per minute. Makes sense doesn't it?

At 15:06 23/12/2007, you wrote:
>By the way, I used to pay attention only to the percentage, but I've
>seen that there is another number there.
>
>Jaws tells that I use 111, 64%. Does anyone what it means (if it
>means something) 111?
>
>Words per minute, or something like that?
>
>Octavian
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob J." <rjustice004@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:56 PM
>Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>
>
>>I also have mine set at 85 or 40%.  I could understand it almost always at 
>>a
>>faster rate but this rate makes re-reading somethings necessary far less
>>often.
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "inthaneelf" 
>><inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:18 PM
>>Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>>
>>
>>yes, mine is set at 86/41 percent, I could move it up a couple points now,
>>just haven't yet
>>
>>regards,
>>inthane
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>>Links
>>to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
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>>----- Original Message ----- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:56 AM
>>Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>>
>>
>>>I have mine on 65 with punctuation set to all, which a lot of people 
>>>don't
>>>like, but since I listen to a lot of computer science mail in which
>>>punctuation is significant, it is what I have gotten used to.  Still it's
>>>kind of a pain to listen to "we apostrophy l l" and other contractions
>>>even
>>>if it is at high speed.  I'm impressed that you have it on 64 with 
>>>english
>>>not being your native language.
>>>--le
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" 
>>><orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 5:43 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>>>
>>>
>>>I am using Jaws with Eloquence, and In the menu
>>>Options/Basics/Voices/Global  adjustment, I have set the rate to 64%.
>>>
>>>This is because english is not my native language, but maybe other users
>>>use
>>>a higher rate.
>>>
>>>Octavian
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Stefik" <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:03 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>>>
>>>
>>>>People talk quite a bit about how fast they have the TTS engines going.
>>>>
>>>>Would anyone mind posting a couple soundfiles of your screenreader
>>>>reading computer code at your "usual" pace? I'm curious how fast folks
>>>>typically have it going. I suspect that, in our pilot studies, we have
>>>>the TTS engine going way slower than you folks do.
>>>>
>>>>Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Dec 21, 2007 2:38 PM, tribble <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>Should have read ahead -- thanks Lloyd and all.  I agree.
>>>>>--le
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <lras@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:41 PM
>>>>>Subject: RE: Free TTS engines
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Natural Voices, VoiceText, Loquento and other modern synthesizers are
>>>>>concatenative, requiring speech segments to be looked up, best match
>>>>>found,
>>>>>then interpolated in order to be modeled on a particular human voice 
>>>>>and
>>>>>sound natural.  To adjust their speed, you have to do some more
>>>>>interpolation and matching, as you do for time-scale modification of
>>>>>natural
>>>>>speech, and this begins to get rough and less intelligible as you go to
>>>>>twice normal speed or faster.
>>>>>
>>>>>The older synthesizers, such as DecTalk, Eloquence and the SSI263 
>>>>>speech
>>>>>chip used by Artic, Braille 'n Speak, Votrax, Accent, etc. are formant
>>>>>synthesizers.  They work on a vocal tract model, and the parameters can
>>>>>be
>>>>>varied systematically to alter the speed without creating quite as much
>>>>>distortion or losing consonants.  Of course they don't sound as 
>>>>>natural,
>>>>>but
>>>>>this is mostly a hindrance to people who don't spend days and days
>>>>>listening
>>>>>to them, for whom speed is more valuable than naturalness.  The other
>>>>>advantage of the vocal-tract synthesizers is that they don't require as
>>>>>much
>>>>>data to be handled, so they work better for echoing individual
>>>>>keystrokes
>>>>>than the ponderous concatenative synthesizers.  Even on modern
>>>>>computers,
>>>>>these speed and responsiveness issues are important.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, Maryland
>>>>>Home:  http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>>>Work:  http://www.loc.gov/nls
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>> > [mailto:programmingblind-
>>>>> >>>> > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas Stefik
>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:34 PM
>>>>> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > Subject: Re: Free TTS engines
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Peter says:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > I have several of these voices.
>>>>> > > Wonderful sound for reading but to slow for use in a Gui.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I say
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You talking about the AT &T ones? Can't you just speed them
>>>>> up? I > know
>>>>> > that, on windows at least, there is a slider bar you can
>>>>> adjust. > Maybe
>>>>> > you mean something else, though. Might not be true for every OS, or
>>>>> > every voice though. I readily admit I'm not an expert on such 
>>>>> > things.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Inthane says:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I have used the AT&T voices and find them to be the best of the TTS
>>>>> > voices
>>>>> > that I have herd, (well, except for there attempt to make one sound
>>>>> > like a
>>>>> > Scotsman, ouch! LOL),
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I say
>>>>> >
>>>>> > lol, yaa the Scotsman is hilarious. Well, I guess it's a tough
>>>>> > decision on what to get.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks for the thoughts, all.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Andreas
>>>>> >
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