Hi, A great source of help is http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org. There's also the elf's site. When he writes a message, get the URL from the bottom. I thought it was in my favorites and history, but I don't see it. Thanks. Jim ---------- Jim Homme Usability Services 412-544-1810 james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx "You can do anything you want to if you put your mind to it" -- Jim Homme Sr. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Bishop Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:39 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: FAQ for the list Well, someone else owns the .com. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: Re: FAQ for the list > So it's .net now...okay. > > Haden Pike > Email: haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:45 PM > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: FAQ for the list > >> I just registered blindprogramming.net. If only we could get some of the >> older resources that were on blindprogramming.com for it. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:43 PM >> Subject: Re: FAQ for the list >> >> >>> wow, I think it depends on the list and it's members really; don't >>> advertize something like a "music sharing list" in the sig, but I >>> would've thought that was common sense. >>> Blindprogramming doesn't exist anymore I don't think, but there is >>> nonvisualdevelopment.org >>> HTH, >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:33 PM >>> Subject: Re: FAQ for the list >>> >>> >>>> Hi -- oh ok -- before I get into the Q&A, I didn't get in on the start >>>> of >>>> this thread -- what list is this faq for? It would help to know what >>>> I'm >>>> talkking about...*smile* >>>> >>>> Anyway, "What is the policy for advertizing on the list?" My >>>> observations >>>> from various lists is that if the ad is for something on topic it is >>>> generally ok, but if it is off topic it is spam. An exception might be >>>> a >>>> very brief ad in the signature of an email. >>>> >>>> What other lists, repositories or other resources relating to >>>> programming or >>>> IDE's are available? >>>> Just list the other lists we know about, plus inthane's grab bag, >>>> jamal's >>>> site, blindprogramming.com, and whatever other links are appropriate. >>>> >>>> Does anyone disagree with any of this? It seems to me on one of the nfb >>>> lists once someposted an email containing a business ad in his >>>> signature >>>> line and the moderator flamed about it and kicked him off the list. >>>> Lately >>>> things are much more lenient. I guess the policy depends on the list. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> --le >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:56 PM >>>> Subject: Re: FAQ for the list >>>> >>>> >>>> Could you also post what you believe your answers to your questions >>>> are, >>>> which I will add to or leave the same. This will save me some time >>>> writing >>>> it all. >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Haden Pike >>>> Email: haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:31 PM >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: Re: FAQ for the list >>>> >>>>> you could also add what is the policy about advertizing on the list? >>>>> What >>>>> other resources (lists, repositories, etc) are available? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:40 PM >>>>> Subject: e: FAQ for the list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well... >>>>> 1. What subjects are acceptable on this list? >>>>> 2. How much can these be stretched (can you ask how to use an >>>>> IDE, for example)? >>>>> 3. What happens if you post an off-topic message? Is this okay >>>>> if you mark the message with an indicator, such as "OT"? >>>>> 4. What is the cross-posting policy? >>>>> 5. If I reply to sender, what happens? >>>>> 6. What is the average list traffic? >>>>> That is all I have for now. >>>>> >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex >>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:30:47 -0700 >>>>>>Subject: FAQ for the list >>>>> >>>>>>I think the best thing is to open t his up to the user community >>>>> and see >>>>>>what they think we should include? What say all of you? >>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:29 PM >>>>>>Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> What all would you like me to put in the FAQ? >>>>> >>>>>>> Haden Pike >>>>>>> Email: haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:16 PM >>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ... >>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, html would be prefered. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:34 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>I would need to know what you wish to address. I would assume >>>>> things >>>>>>>>>like: >>>>>>>>> What is off topic for this list? What kind of topics are >>>>> discussed? etc. >>>>>>>>> Also, what format would you want it in, html? >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Haden Pike >>>>>>>>> Email: haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:25 PM >>>>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ... >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. That would be awesome. >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:17 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As far as an FAQ, I would be happy to write it. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Haden Pike >>>>>>>>>>> Email: haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:51 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ... >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My two cents on this .... I think the recent list problems >>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>> mainly >>>>>>>>>>>> been due to how people have been using the list rather than due >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> limitations of the FreeLists technology, which seems to work >>>>> well for >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> JAWSScripts, Program-L, and other lists. I agree that is dumb >>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>>> server software to get confused by the word "subscribe" in the >>>>>>>>>>>> subject, >>>>>>>>>>>> and other such anomalies, but think they have generally been >>>>> rare and >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> interfered with the general functioning of the list. I think >>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> changing to Yahoo or Google sounds like it would create as many >>>>>>>>>>>> problems >>>>>>>>>>>> as it solves. I suggest we stay with FreeLists but try to >>>>> manage the >>>>>>>>>>>> human interface better, including more regular intervention by >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> moderator, less flaming, and perhaps monthly reminders about >>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>>> commands, and a FAQ if we can find a volunteer to write one. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jamal >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> __________ >>>>>>>>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> __________ >>>>>>>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> __________ >>>>>>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> __________ >>>>>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> __________ >>>>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> __________ >>>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>__________ >>>>>>View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>>> >>>> __________ >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>> >>> >>> __________ >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>> signature database 4251 (20090716) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 4251 (20090716) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind This e-mail and any attachments to it are confidential and are intended solely for use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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