RE: FAQ for the list

  • From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:17:17 -0400

Hi,
A great source of help is http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org. There's also the 
elf's site. When he writes a message, get the URL from the bottom. I thought it 
was in my favorites and history, but I don't see it.

Thanks.
Jim

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Jim Homme
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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Bishop
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:39 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: FAQ for the list

Well, someone else owns the .com.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: FAQ for the list


> So it's .net now...okay.
>
> Haden Pike
> Email: haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:45 PM
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: FAQ for the list
>
>> I just registered blindprogramming.net. If only we could get some of the
>> older resources that were on blindprogramming.com for it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: FAQ for the list
>>
>>
>>> wow, I think it depends on the list and it's members really; don't
>>> advertize something like a "music sharing list" in the sig, but I
>>> would've thought that was common sense.
>>> Blindprogramming doesn't exist anymore I don't think, but there is
>>> nonvisualdevelopment.org
>>> HTH,
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: FAQ for the list
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi -- oh ok -- before I get into the Q&A, I didn't get in on the start
>>>> of
>>>> this thread -- what list is this faq for? It would help to know what
>>>> I'm
>>>> talkking about...*smile*
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, "What is the policy for advertizing on the list?" My
>>>> observations
>>>> from various lists is that if the ad is for something on topic it is
>>>> generally ok, but if it is off topic it is spam.  An exception might be
>>>> a
>>>> very brief ad in the signature of an email.
>>>>
>>>> What other lists, repositories or other resources relating to
>>>> programming or
>>>> IDE's are available?
>>>> Just list the other lists we know about, plus inthane's grab bag,
>>>> jamal's
>>>> site, blindprogramming.com, and whatever other links are appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone disagree with any of this? It seems to me on one of the nfb
>>>> lists once someposted an email containing a business ad in his
>>>> signature
>>>> line and the moderator flamed about it and kicked him off the list.
>>>> Lately
>>>> things are much more lenient.  I guess the policy depends on the list.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>> --le
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: FAQ for the list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could you also post what you believe your answers to your questions
>>>> are,
>>>> which I will add to or leave the same. This will save me some time
>>>> writing
>>>> it all.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Haden Pike
>>>> Email: haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:31 PM
>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: Re: FAQ for the list
>>>>
>>>>> you could also add what is the policy about advertizing on the list?
>>>>> What
>>>>> other resources (lists, repositories, etc) are available?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: e: FAQ for the list
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well...
>>>>> 1.  What subjects are acceptable on this list?
>>>>> 2.  How much can these be stretched (can you ask how to use an
>>>>> IDE, for example)?
>>>>> 3.  What happens if you post an off-topic message? Is this okay
>>>>> if you mark the message with an indicator, such as "OT"?
>>>>> 4.  What is the cross-posting policy?
>>>>> 5.  If I reply to sender, what happens?
>>>>> 6.  What is the average list traffic?
>>>>> That is all I have for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:30:47 -0700
>>>>>>Subject: FAQ for the list
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think the best thing is to open t his up to the user community
>>>>> and see
>>>>>>what they think we should include?  What say all of you?
>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:29 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> What all would you like me to put in the FAQ?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haden Pike
>>>>>>> Email: haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:16 PM
>>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, html would be prefered.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:34 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I would need to know what you wish to address.  I would assume
>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>like:
>>>>>>>>> What is off topic for this list? What kind of topics are
>>>>> discussed? etc.
>>>>>>>>> Also, what format would you want it in, html?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Haden Pike
>>>>>>>>> Email: haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:25 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.  That would be awesome.
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:17 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As far as an FAQ, I would be happy to write it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Haden Pike
>>>>>>>>>>> Email: haden.pike@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:51 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My two cents on this ....  I think the recent list problems
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>> been due to how people have been using the list rather than due
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> limitations of the FreeLists technology, which seems to work
>>>>> well for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> JAWSScripts, Program-L, and other lists.  I agree that is dumb
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>> server software to get confused by the word "subscribe" in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> subject,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and other such anomalies, but think they have generally been
>>>>> rare and
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> interfered with the general functioning of the list.  I think
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> changing to Yahoo or Google sounds like it would create as many
>>>>>>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>>>>>>>> as it solves.  I suggest we stay with FreeLists but try to
>>>>> manage the
>>>>>>>>>>>> human interface better, including more regular intervention by
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> moderator, less flaming, and perhaps monthly reminders about
>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>> commands, and a FAQ if we can find a volunteer to write one.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamal
>>>>>
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