RE: Emacspeak on Mac OSX Revisited
- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:39:18 -0400
When you say it doesn't work what happens when you type emacspeak.
ken
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Subject: Emacspeak on Mac OSX Revisited
Hi List,
Good day to you all. I've meticulously followed Ken's instructions for
installing emacspeak on Mac OSX but it's still not speaking.
Everything downloaded, compiled and installed without errors although
macports did download a lot of stuff which I suppose emacs and emacspeak
depends on.
Emacs and even emacspeak does open, but no speech. The DTK_PROGRAM
environment variable is set -- if I do "echo $DTK_PROGRAM " in a
terminal it prints "mac".
I'm not looking for emacspeak or emacs help since that is well
documented by Alex's doc and others, but I am looking for more info on
how to get emacspeak working on a mac. Here are some basic questions of
which I didn't catch the answer although I've went through the posts
meticulously.
1. Do you have to turn VoiceOver off before you start emacspeak?
2. Can emacspaek work with the VoiceOver sub system and use the mac TTS
or do you have to use espeak?
3. Without actually running emacspeak is there a way to test all the
components separately?
4. Can emacspeak only work in the terminal version of emacs or could it
also work in a Cocoa version -- read something about Aqua Emacs ---
looks like a GUI version of emacs.
5. Has anyone managed to get emacspeak working on Leopard (OSX 10.5.8)?
6. Any other nifty programmers editors for Mac? My beloved VIM, both
terminal and GUI versions don't seem to play nicely with VoiceOver, or
shall I rather say VoiceOver doesn't seem to play nicely with them since
they are nice fellows!
7. I've asked before about a terminal program improvement over the
standard terminal app in Leopard, which also doesn't work properly with
VoiceOver. Any other ideas besides yassr and mactelnet?
8. Are there no full screen , basic terminal / console mode for OSX like
in linux Ctrl+Alt + F1 for which Braille or voice can work? When booting
and holding down Shift you get to a single user mode that is similar to
the linuc console, so this does exist although that one doesn't have speech.
9. A clever way to access a mac is of course via ssh -- saw Florian was
doing this -- but then again no emacspeak possible there.
10. I understand emacspeak provides a sort of networkable speech
protocol similar to X Windows which in theory would enable you to write
a speech server placed anywhere on your network. How well does this
really work? Could you for example ssh into a mac, set the speech up on
emacspeak to use a speech server on the computer you are ssh'ing from?
Many questions!
Thanks in advance for anyone attempting to answer some of these.
Kerns
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