Re: Emacspeak on Mac

From: David Tseng <davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:33:14 -0700
Have you tried creating ~/.emacs?

I assume you're running /usr/bin/emacspeak to launch emacs?

On 9/2/11, Florian-achtige <florianbeijers@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Reading back my emails from a while ago really makes me feel like I am
> reading the ramblings of a whiny kid.  I appologize for my way of
> asking questions and whining :D It almost makes me reluctant to ask
> this next question :D
> Since my upgrade to lion, all my .-files have gone poof. I have no
> .bash_rc, .profile …that kind of thing. But strangely enough ,
> ~/.emacs does not exist either, according to my mac OS terminal. I
> can't find it anywhere using spotlight and launchbar, not sure if
> those can even find hidden files though.
> In normal circumstances I would say this would have to make emacspeak
> unable to load, because there is no load flag for emacspeak in the
> .emacs file , but it loads just fine. SO …where could the file have
> gone?
>  Is there a way I can log where emacs is getting its initialisation
> flags from? The .emacs appears to have been generated when building
> emacs using brew's svn repo, it is emacs 24.0. The -q flag i removed
> from the emacs file prior to reinstalling it all appears to have gone,
> as well, for i can no longer save my settings. Does anyone have an
> idea on how to find out where this file is located so i can make the
> necessary edits to it?
>
> Thanks a lot and once again my appologies,
> Florian
>
> 2011/5/14, David Tseng <davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> He doesn't even need to do that (if he wanted to use espeak in the
>> first place, which he doesn't).
>>
>> All the server is (in the case of espeak) is a tcl script that handles
>> protocol commands from emacspeak using a read (via stdin) eval loop
>> and passing off strings send from the espeak/emacs process containing
>> specific control characters/commands to the espeak lib for tts
>> rendering.  It doesn't require a compile in other words and the make
>> file just deploys the server in the site-lisp/emacspeak/servers
>> directory so emacspeak can find it.
>>
>> As for the espeak libs, you can find pre-compiled dylibs floating
>> around of espeak though I can't atest to their functionality or
>> reliability.  Someone else had wanted this over at the mv-dev list for
>> VoiceOver (which requires a bit more work).
>>
>> On 5/13/11, DaShiell, Jude T.  CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
>> <jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Right, the espeak binary package containing the espeak server and a
>>> couple binaries probably isn't yet built.  To be absolutely sure, try:
>>> Espeak " testing 1 2 3 4" <enter> and the stuff inside the quotes should
>>> not speak if VoiceOver is toggled off when you do that.  If this is the
>>> case, you'll need to configure and make espeak after you configure and
>>> make portaudio since espeak will go looking for portaudio and when it
>>> doesn't find it will throw rocks at your head.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
>>> Beijers
>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 15:09
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>>>
>>> This message makes me think I can use eSpeak on the mac with emacspeak .
>>> Is this true?
>>> If so, I checked and there is indeed an eSpeak file in that directory
>>> without a file extension, but running:
>>> emacspeak -e
>>>
>>> gives the ' process speaker not running '  error which I have seen
>>> before on linux when it was trying to pipe speech to a nonexistent
>>> hardware synthesizer. So I know its there ...appears emacspeak does not
>>> ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 13, 2011, at 6:38 PM, DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> See what happens when you type locate espeak >espeak.log in a terminal
>>> window.  There should be some directory structure like
>>> emacspeak-33/servers/espeak in that log file.  If so see if you can find
>>> an espeak file with no file suffix on it in that directory.  If not,
>>> then run make in that directory and see what happens.  If you get
>>> errors, then you may need to edit the version of tcl and tclx in that
>>> make file to match what's on your machine.  I had 8.5 on slackware 13.0
>>> but that file says 8.4.  So I changed 8.4 to 8.5 and did the make and it
>>> was successful.  I expect I'll be doing a make on a mac or two this
>>> weekend so I'll know more after that.  By the way, emacspeak-34.0
>>> Bubbles was just released earlier today.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
>>> Beijers
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:44
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>>>>
>>>> How do I find out what directory it is talking about? I have seen no
>>> indication of it telling me.
>>>> Also , how do I increase the speech rate? I tried changing the value
>>> in the 'default mac speech rate'  field of customize without any visible
>>> effect. I know the -q flag prevents me from saving but it didnt change
>>> my current buffer either after hitting state, set.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Florian
>>>> On May 13, 2011, at 5:36 PM, DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When emacspeak says specified program is a directory, you probably
>>> need
>>>>> to enter that directory and if you find a Makefile in that directory
>>> run
>>>>> make on it.  I had this happen in the emacspeak servers directory
>>> until
>>>>> I entered that directory and ran make and had a script built by make
>>>>> then emacspeak started working on slackware 13.0 using portaudio 19
>>> and
>>>>> espeak.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
>>>>> Beijers
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:16
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am gradually learning my way around emacs and emacspeak. I have a
>>> few
>>>>> questions:
>>>>> - What does it mean when the voice raises pitch?
>>>>> - I have had it tell me "Specified program for new process is a
>>>>> directory" ...Is that me doing something wrong or the program?
>>>>> - How far can the voice it uses be sped up ?
>>>>> - Do links make the voice speak lower like on linux? Working with the
>>>>> emacspeak easy howto which gives me these facts, I am quite a newbie
>>> to
>>>>> emacs and emacspeak..
>>>>>
>>>>> Florian
>>>>> On May 12, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Grin well ask around I have miss typed my way through life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
>>>>> Beijers
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:33 PM
>>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hehe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am afraid that means YOU had a mistype . I copied that line from
>>> the
>>>>> email
>>>>>> xd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for clearing that up, I never work with svn so didnt know the
>>>>>> direction scheme thats used by default. :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Florian
>>>>>> On May 12, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have a miss type. It should be:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> svn co http://emacspeak.googlecode.com/svn/trunk emacspeak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
>>>>>> Beijers
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:26 PM
>>>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesnt seem to work for me. When i try to run the svn co command
>>> I
>>>>> get
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> svn: Unusable URI: it does not refer to this repository
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The command I enter is:
>>>>>>> svn co http://emacspeak.googlecode.com/svntrunk emacspeak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why does this happen and what can I do to fix?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FLorianOn May 9, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Grin I didn't use a mac before it because a better OS 10.5
>>>>> definitely
>>>>>>>> wasn't.  I can't wait for Lion now.  The sad part is I like all
>>>>> three
>>>>>> OS's
>>>>>>>> now so I have to have a mac so I can run them legally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
>>>>> Tseng
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:09 PM
>>>>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should work on 10.5 as long as you can get all the dependencies
>>>>>>>> installed through Mac Ports (or home brew).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 10.5 most definitely has the cocoa frameworks btw.
>>>>>>>> On 5/9/11, Kerneels Roos <kerneels@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for this. Does it work on older, G4 Mac OSX 10.5 also?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/6/2011 7:06 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Emacspeak now works on Mac thanks to David.  I know he has
>>> posted
>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>> before but I have just recently set it up on 3 machines with a
>>> bit
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> Davids
>>>>>>>>>> help so I thought I would post the steps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> first if you don't have Mac ports go to the following link and
>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> one for your platform:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://macports.org/install.php
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes Mac ports doesn't update your profile so you need to
>>> if
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't.  You can check if it does just by typing port if it is
>>>>> there
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> should give you some usage information.  If it doesn't work then
>>>>> you
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> edit your .bash_profile file and add this line
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> export PATH=/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:$PATH
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That will make mac ports work right.  After that follow these
>>>>> steps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #install emacs
>>>>>>>>>> sudo port install emacs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #install subversion
>>>>>>>>>> sudo port install subversion
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #get emacspeak repo from the  emacspeak trunk
>>>>>>>>>> svn co http://emacspeak.googlecode.com/svntrunk emacspeak
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #change directories
>>>>>>>>>> cd emacspeak
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #make the configure file
>>>>>>>>>> make config
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #build emacspeak
>>>>>>>>>> make emacspeak
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #install emacspeak
>>>>>>>>>> sudo make install
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #add this line to your bash_profile
>>>>>>>>>> export DTK_PROGRAM=mac
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now close your terminal and relog in your all done run
>>> emacspeak.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks goes to David and everyone else in getting this to work.
>>> I
>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> changes are coming but this works great.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>>>>
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- Re: Emacspeak on Mac
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