Re: Emacspeak on Mac

  • From: Florian Beijers <florianbeijers@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 19:25:42 +0200

I do not know if portaudio-19 is operational, how can one check this?
Also , why is eSpeak required for auditory icons? Currently the speech is 
provided by the mac speech synth. Is this wrong?

Florian
On May 13, 2011, at 7:20 PM, DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26 wrote:

> If portaudio-19 and espeak are fully operational this audio icons
> problem I think shouldn't even be happening.  I just put a line in my
> .emacs file to turn audio icons on as emacs starts up and I'm having
> none of this problem on my slackware system.  The thing with slackware
> is, you have a speakup voice running on a hardware synthesizer and
> nothing talking on the sound card until emacspeak starts up so it's
> really easy to tell what is working and when.  Since VoiceOver has the
> sound card going, maybe toggling VoiceOver off just before you hit the
> enter key to start up emacspeak might help too.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
> Beijers
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 12:31
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
> 
> Ok ...do you know how to fix the auditory icons problem too?
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
> 
>> You first need to read the manual and then maybe do control-h k for
> all the
>> keys.  But to do rate do
>> 
>> Control-e d 8 for speed eight.
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
> Beijers
>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:44 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>> 
>> How do I find out what directory it is talking about? I have seen no
>> indication of it telling me.
>> Also , how do I increase the speech rate? I tried changing the value
> in the
>> 'default mac speech rate'  field of customize without any visible
> effect. I
>> know the -q flag prevents me from saving but it didnt change my
> current
>> buffer either after hitting state, set.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Florian
>> On May 13, 2011, at 5:36 PM, DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26
> wrote:
>> 
>>> When emacspeak says specified program is a directory, you probably
> need
>>> to enter that directory and if you find a Makefile in that directory
> run
>>> make on it.  I had this happen in the emacspeak servers directory
> until
>>> I entered that directory and ran make and had a script built by make
>>> then emacspeak started working on slackware 13.0 using portaudio 19
> and
>>> espeak.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
>>> Beijers
>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:16
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>>> 
>>> Hey,
>>> 
>>> I am gradually learning my way around emacs and emacspeak. I have a
> few
>>> questions:
>>> - What does it mean when the voice raises pitch?
>>> - I have had it tell me "Specified program for new process is a
>>> directory" ...Is that me doing something wrong or the program?
>>> - How far can the voice it uses be sped up ?
>>> - Do links make the voice speak lower like on linux? Working with the
>>> emacspeak easy howto which gives me these facts, I am quite a newbie
> to
>>> emacs and emacspeak..
>>> 
>>> Florian
>>> On May 12, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Grin well ask around I have miss typed my way through life.  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
>>> Beijers
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:33 PM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>>>> 
>>>> Hehe,
>>>> 
>>>> I am afraid that means YOU had a mistype . I copied that line from
> the
>>> email
>>>> xd
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for clearing that up, I never work with svn so didnt know the
>>>> direction scheme thats used by default. :D 
>>>> 
>>>> Florian
>>>> On May 12, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You have a miss type. It should be:
>>>>> 
>>>>> svn co http://emacspeak.googlecode.com/svn/trunk emacspeak
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
>>>> Beijers
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:26 PM
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>>>>> 
>>>>> It doesnt seem to work for me. When i try to run the svn co command
> I
>>> get
>>>> : 
>>>>> svn: Unusable URI: it does not refer to this repository
>>>>> 
>>>>> The command I enter is:
>>>>> svn co http://emacspeak.googlecode.com/svntrunk emacspeak
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why does this happen and what can I do to fix?
>>>>> 
>>>>> FLorianOn May 9, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Grin I didn't use a mac before it because a better OS 10.5
>>> definitely
>>>>>> wasn't.  I can't wait for Lion now.  The sad part is I like all
>>> three
>>>> OS's
>>>>>> now so I have to have a mac so I can run them legally.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
>>> Tseng
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:09 PM
>>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Emacspeak on Mac
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Should work on 10.5 as long as you can get all the dependencies
>>>>>> installed through Mac Ports (or home brew).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 10.5 most definitely has the cocoa frameworks btw.
>>>>>> On 5/9/11, Kerneels Roos <kerneels@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for this. Does it work on older, G4 Mac OSX 10.5 also?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/6/2011 7:06 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>> Emacspeak now works on Mac thanks to David.  I know he has
> posted
>>> here
>>>>>>>> before but I have just recently set it up on 3 machines with a
> bit
>>> of
>>>>>>>> Davids
>>>>>>>> help so I thought I would post the steps.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> first if you don't have Mac ports go to the following link and
>>> download
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> one for your platform:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://macports.org/install.php
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> sometimes Mac ports doesn't update your profile so you need to
> if
>>> it
>>>>>>>> doesn't.  You can check if it does just by typing port if it is
>>> there
>>>> it
>>>>>>>> should give you some usage information.  If it doesn't work then
>>> you
>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> edit your .bash_profile file and add this line
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> export PATH=/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:$PATH
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That will make mac ports work right.  After that follow these
>>> steps.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> #install emacs
>>>>>>>> sudo port install emacs
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> #install subversion
>>>>>>>> sudo port install subversion
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> #get emacspeak repo from the  emacspeak trunk
>>>>>>>> svn co http://emacspeak.googlecode.com/svntrunk emacspeak
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> #change directories
>>>>>>>> cd emacspeak
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> #make the configure file
>>>>>>>> make config
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> #build emacspeak
>>>>>>>> make emacspeak
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> #install emacspeak
>>>>>>>> sudo make install
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> #add this line to your bash_profile
>>>>>>>> export DTK_PROGRAM=mac
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Now close your terminal and relog in your all done run
> emacspeak.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> thanks goes to David and everyone else in getting this to work.
> I
>>> know
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> changes are coming but this works great.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ken
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