Re: Dynamic active content
- From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 23:14:26 -0700
Sorry all, I got carried away, I'll get back on topic now.
Matthew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Dynamic active content
Regarding your comment in relation to the acquisition of information via 2
different mediums, just so you know, your brain devotes more neural
territory to vision than all your other 5 senses combined. This of course
means we're at a great disadvantage with sighted friends, colleagues, and
Indian chiefs. Turn to your right and use your ears and hands to describe
as much as you can, then ask a sighted person to do the same. Who do you
think will have more detailed information at a blink of an eye? Now go to
the window and repeat the process. Get the idea?
Matthew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Dynamic active content
I think what you're forgetting is that I'd say on a scale of 1 to 10 the
entire world is probably at about a 4 when it comes to the ability to
quickly and efficiently acquire information from the internet. I have no
real statistical numbers, it just seems a little strange the disadvantage
you seem to think we are in. I'm not saying there isn't work to be done,
but there're lots of things on the internet (buying items on Amazon being
one of them, actually) that I know I can do not at the equivalent speed as
a sighted user, but faster in many instances. A lot of times people try to
transfer techniques for browsing pages from the sighted world to the blind
one, I feel. If more blind people were to be taught, or just stopped to
think, how powerful a feature it is it is for your screen reader to run a
search on a web page and place the cursor where the search hits in its
respective browse buffer for example.. I think you'd see more more blind
web users be even more successful on a number of sites. Your Amazon
experiences are very strange to me, as that is one of the sites that I
feel with familiarity I can browse faster than sighted peers. I would
agree that first time visits to a website might be more inefficient for
us, but I think we can more greatly optimize our experience with a given
website with increased familiarity to its content. These are just the pros
and cons associated with getting the same information through two
distinctly different mediums.
Jared
Matthew2007 wrote:
Ken,
Thanks for the information. More confirming information that blind
people are truly at a great disadvantage when it comes to interacting
with the many different types of WebPages on the internet. Had the
presenter not specified many of these interface problems I would have
never considered just how slow computing is for blind individuals. So
far, it appears that from a scale of 1 to 10, the average blind web user
is probably lingering in at about a 3 when it comes to quickly accessing
information on the web. Just this past week I asked my wife to help me
make a purchase on Amazon.com. I was in a hurry and didn't want to have
to read through a mess of information. She found and purchased the item
I was looking for within some 10 minutes. It would have easily taken me
over an hour due to the size of the pages on the web site as well as the
amount of extraneous information the blind user must wade through as we
have to read from top to bottom or search around for various keywords to
get at desired information. I've been buying from Amazon and other
similar sites on the web for years, so its not me as much as how I must
interact with a website even using the most current screen reader.
Matthew
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: Dynamic active content
We have been talking about menus and other dynamic content so I thought
it
would be important to post the new Web anywhere screen reader that will
work
on any device that has a web browser and can play music. This is just
one
video and it should be release this month if it hasn't already been
released.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpmB2DLrkTE
Ken
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