Re: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO

  • From: Chris Hofstader <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:32:29 -0400

If a serious 508 suite of tests  is done of all of the Oracle products that 
have a UI, one will find that they would all fail - some in a few areas, others 
across the board. They didn't have to drop the bridge to provide sucky 
accessibility to their programs.

There are approximately 300K Oracle database installations worldwide. There are 
approximately 2 million mysql systems deployed. If Oracle doesn't become 
accessible, 508 coordinators can use a switch to mysql as the engine to get 
Oracle to remedy its accessibility problems.

Oracle did keep its accessibility engineers who are working on OpenOffice but 
it remains uncertain if they will continue to release source code to OpenOffice 
as it progresses. A new group calling itself the Document Foundation has forked 
OpenOffice and launched LibreOffice which is FLOSS forever.

We have tons of stuff that volunteers can do at FSF/GNU so, if you have time or 
energy, we have lots of tasks that need to be accomplished and many are high 
priorities. We are coordinating our efforts as best as we can with the Gnome 
Foundation and other FLOSS organizations so as to avoid stepping on each 
others' toes or wasting time doing multiple fixes to the same problem so, if 
you can't find a GNU task to work on, the folks at Gnome Foundation and 
probably the new Document Foundation will certainly have something for you to 
do - just remember to tell them I sent you <laugh>.

cdh



 
On Oct 10, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO wrote:

> Hi Listers,
> 
> I have not stepped into this until now. I would hope that needing government 
> contracts in the United States would have some affect on all this. I have 
> asked people about swing and I am told it isn't used very much because there 
> is newer technology out there. I am not an experienced Java programmer so 
> maybe the rest of you will know more than I do. I know we use Struts at my 
> building for creation of web projects. If I have just made a fool of myself, 
> it's not the first time and won't be the last. (grin).
> 
> Susie Stanzel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 7:08 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO
> 
> hey, this is my usual line, "beat them into submission" lol
> 
> or hound,or pummel,  or...
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:14 AM
> Subject: RE: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO
> 
> 
>> Wow, it only took like 15 emails on the subject, but finally the voice of 
>> reason has made itself known.
>> 
>> Ken, I completely agree. Now is the time to pressure them into actually 
>> not abandoning it.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 1:10 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If this is true then it's not time to tell people to stay away.  It's time 
>> to get people to get active and start emailing and
>> calling them till they do support it.  If we stay away we lose what 
>> accessibility was there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Storm Dragon
>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:09 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I would not doubt it for one second. They dropped the ball on Linux 
>> accessibility pretty much first thing when they took over Sun.
>> It's probably a good idea, if you have influence over software decisions, 
>> to encourage companies, clients, and friends to stay far
>> far away from Oracle and their software. I was even going to get rid of 
>> Open Office but fortunately the version used in Ubuntu is a
>> fork so not subject to them. unless, that is, they somehow manage to win 
>> their evil attack on Google. If that happens, who knows who
>> they will attack next. Keep your fingers crossed, and maybe the open 
>> source community will keep the Bridge going, Orca is still
>> alive and well after all.
>> Storm
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
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>> My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon:
>> http://www.stormdragon.us/
>> Get yourself a Frostbox:
>> http://www.frostbitesystems.com/
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 08:15 +0530, prateek aggarwal wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> oh know,
>> i wish its just a rumor.
>> if its ever going to be true, i'll be so said.
>> 
>> regards,
>> prateek agarwal.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/9/10, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> I heard from a good source today that Oracle has decided to discontinue
>>> support for the Java Access Bridge (and no alternative is planned).  I
>>> would be glad to be convinced otherwise.  If anyone has information
>>> regarding this topic, please share.
>>> 
>>> Jamal
>>> 
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