Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included

Good afternoon,

OpenSolaris is based on Unix.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSolaris

OpenSolaris is an open source project created by Sun Microsystems to build a developer community around Solaris technology. It is aimed at developers, system administrators and users who want to develop and improve operating systems. As of June 2007, more than 60,000 community members are registered on opensolaris.org with around 2,000 members being employed by Sun Microsystems. An active OpenSolaris User Group is now growing worldwide, and dozens of OpenSolaris technology communities and projects are being opened on opensolaris.org.

OpenSolaris is derived from the Unix System V Release 4 codebase, and has significant modifications made by Sun since it bought the rights to the codebase in 1994. It is the only open source System V derivative available. Open sourced components are snapshots of the latest Solaris release under development.[1] Future versions of Solaris will be based on technology from the OpenSolaris project.[2]



HTH,

Everett





----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


Well that's not good news. :-(
I've started to use Jaws from the version 3.6 or 3.8 or something like that, and if you say that Orca compares with Jaws 3.3, it means that it is even less advanced than what I thought.

But OpenSolaris isn't Unix? It is just another distribution of Linux?

In my mind I always associated Sun with Unix because I thought that SunOS and Solaris are Unix operating systems, and I also thought that Unix work only on Unix servers and workstations, and only Linux is a kind of Unix made for PC.

But or I am wrong and Solaris is not Unix, or Sun fool us and use the same name of Solaris for 2 different operating systems, one of them beeing Unix and the other one beeing a Linux distribution.

Can anyone make some light?

Thanks.



Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Operating System with speech included



Actually both orca linux and Solaris are about the same. I would put them around Jaws 3.3 access right now. I run Ubuntu because it's the easiest to
get working on my laptop.  I also run Redhat 9 on my server and have no
troubles with it if you don't mind hacking a bit.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 6:50 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included

That's good news. Does OpenSolaris and Orca offer a better accessibility
than Windows with Jaws?

Or at least does it offer a better accessibility than Ubuntu with Orca?

Thanks.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


yes, solaris is a unix platform and it suports orca.
at least for x86 cpu family
i've worked with solaris 10,
i've downloaded it from sun site for free.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


Sorry, but I think you don't know what you are talking about.

First, I didn't say that Jaws is a Microsoft program. I said only that
the best accessibility is offered by Windows and Jaws and not by Orca and Linux, but not even the comparison between these 2 is important, but the fact that it is very hard to create another OS with another screen reader
built in.

Second, I know that Orca works with Linux, but Sun doesn't pretend that
they've created the most advanced Linux OS, but that they've created
Solaris, the most advanced OS.
However, Solaris is not accessible for the blind, or it is accessible but
only by using emacspeak, which has a very ugly interface and offers a
poor accessibility anyway, and I haven't tested Solaris so I don't really know if it really supports emacspeak or it is just a future plan for Sun.

By the way, have anyone tried Solaris?

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


don't forget that jaws is not a microsoft software and, taking software
only from the two grand companies, sun is better than microsoft.
Because, with orca you can do more than with narator from windows.
So Sun has right assuming it as the best company offering an advanced os
with speak.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


Windows is an operating system with speech included. Do you want to
create a
better OS than Windows and a better screen reader than Narrator?
I guess you want to create a better one, because otherwise... why
bother?

In order to do that, you should create a company, employ a few
thousands of
good programmers and after very many years you might do it.
Sun Microsystems has tens of thousands of programmers and they pretend
that
they have created the most advanced operating system in the world, and
they
have also made one of the most used screen readers for Linux, but the
accessibility offered by their solutions is much lower than the one
offered
by Windows and screen readers like Jaws, and Sun work on their OS for
very
many years, so... it could be very hard to do what you want.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose Lomeli" <jose.lomeli93@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 10:05 AM
Subject: Creating an Operating System with speech included


Hello; Listers, I just thought.  What do I have to do to create a
operating system with speech. I just thought about this. Can this be
done? Please write back.
From Jose Lomeli.
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