Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included

hello,
there are usb headsets you can buy (I don't know much about the details), that windows will automatically recognize.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


Good afternoon,

I think there are two separate issues that MS would have with an accessible install.

1. Not all sound cards are supported by default, this is the same for Linux / Solaris, so not that big of an issue.

2. Significant parts of the install are not accessible (partitioning), even if you do have a supported soundcard. This is not the case with the Ubuntu and Solaris accessible installs. However, each of those operating systems require more work to make partitioning more intuitive during the accessible install experience.

Everett

----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


a big problem here is with the sound card drivers.
If it is a comon one is ok and in this moment windows, after partitioning steps, has narator for talking install.
I've used narator to install windows.
But, it doesn't work for a computer where we have a uncomon sound card.
By uncomon I mean a card wich does not work with generic sound drivers from windows, or one for which windows has not integrated some drivers.
So theoretically speaking, windows has a partial talking install.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


its not hard to create a op with built in speech. mac has done it and it even has talking install. In fact you can run the op straight off the cd with speech. So it wouldn't be hard for a company like Microsoft to do such, and the speech in the op would be more stable then the third party stuff we run now.

At 05:01 AM 12/6/2008, you wrote:
Sorry, but I think you don't know what you are talking about.

First, I didn't say that Jaws is a Microsoft program. I said only that the best accessibility is offered by Windows and Jaws and not by Orca and Linux, but not even the comparison between these 2 is important, but the fact that it is very hard to create another OS with another screen reader built in.

Second, I know that Orca works with Linux, but Sun doesn't pretend that they've created the most advanced Linux OS, but that they've created Solaris, the most advanced OS. However, Solaris is not accessible for the blind, or it is accessible but only by using emacspeak, which has a very ugly interface and offers a poor accessibility anyway, and I haven't tested Solaris so I don't really know if it really supports emacspeak or it is just a future plan for Sun.

By the way, have anyone tried Solaris?

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


don't forget that jaws is not a microsoft software and, taking software only from the two grand companies, sun is better than microsoft.
Because, with orca you can do more than with narator from windows.
So Sun has right assuming it as the best company offering an advanced os with speak.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


Windows is an operating system with speech included. Do you want to create a
better OS than Windows and a better screen reader than Narrator?
I guess you want to create a better one, because otherwise... why bother?

In order to do that, you should create a company, employ a few thousands of
good programmers and after very many years you might do it.
Sun Microsystems has tens of thousands of programmers and they pretend that they have created the most advanced operating system in the world, and they
have also made one of the most used screen readers for Linux, but the
accessibility offered by their solutions is much lower than the one offered by Windows and screen readers like Jaws, and Sun work on their OS for very
many years, so... it could be very hard to do what you want.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose Lomeli" <jose.lomeli93@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 10:05 AM
Subject: Creating an Operating System with speech included


Hello; Listers, I just thought.  What do I have to do to create a
operating system with speech. I just thought about this. Can this be
done? Please write back.
From Jose Lomeli.
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