Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included
- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:23:15 +0200
Well, the result is that some .doc documents can't be well used under Linux if
they contain ActiveX objects.
This wouldn't be a problem if all or most of the users would use Open Office
only, but most of the users still use MS Office, especially by businesses, and
especially by businesses that don't have anything in common with the iT field.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included
> as I think, activex is a propietary tehnolgy and only microsoft can use it.
> This is the reason that makes firefox not to use them (amoung other like
> security)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included
>
>
>> So do you mean that Open Office supports ActiveX like MS Office does?
>>
>> Octavian
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:00 PM
>> Subject: RE: Creating an Operating System with speech included
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Actually open office does better at converting and opening Microsoft
>>> files
>>> than Word itself does. When I was in college back in the 90's we had
>>> people
>>> using Word perfect and people using word and we had to convert between
>>> the
>>> formats. If we converted using either Word or Word perfect we would lose
>>> the table of contents or the formatting would be screwed up. If however
>>> we
>>> used open office or Star office (50$) it would convert perfectly so we
>>> had
>>> to use Linux just to convert files. .
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
>>> Rasnita
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:12 AM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included
>>>
>>> By the best accessibility I mean the best accessibility out of the box,
>>> and
>>> this is found with Windows and Jaws, or as you said, they offer the
>>> easiest
>>> accessibility.
>>>
>>> And by accessibility I also refer to the possibility of accessing some
>>> types
>>>
>>> of files used by some companies, which are Windows specific files. They
>>> should be also easy accessible under Linux out of the box.
>>>
>>> If we consider the accessibility from the point of view of developers
>>> that
>>> create screen readers, that is important for a very small number of
>>> persons.
>>>
>>> I already said that Windows offer fewer configuration possibilities than
>>> Linux, and that it is more limited than Linux, but those limited options
>>> under Windows are enough for most users, while under Linux it might be
>>> very
>>> hard to scan and OCR images, to use an .mdb database or some other types
>>> of
>>> files which are used under Windows.
>>> Windows is a de facto standard for most businesses, and nobody cares that
>>> some Linux binaries can't be used under Windows, but they care if a
>>> certain
>>> Windows binary can't be used.
>>>
>>> Octavian
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:24 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Creating an Operating System with speech included
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I disagree with this. The easiest accessibility is found with windows
>>>> and
>>>> jaws. The most accessible software like OCR can be found with windows.
>>>> You
>>>> are in correct by saying the best access is found with windows and Jaws.
>>>> The best is still speakup, orca, and Linux. Someone has already said it
>>>> here but if windows screws up you can just sit and listen to your mp3
>>>> player
>>>> because you sure the heck are not going to fix it on your own without
>>>> reinstalling the whole thing. I say this from the point of view as a
>>>> previous manager of an office network of over 12 windows xp machines and
>>>> a
>>>> now coder of a device running OE Linux. I never had a problem with the
>>>> 1
>>>> Linux box that I could not fix myself but with all the windows boxes
>>>> there
>>>> was always something I couldn't do and that ticks me off. True access
>>>> would
>>>> see us even at the bios level and at one time there was talking bios
>>>> chips
>>>> and the only way to do that now is by the Intel remote management but
>>>> what
>>>
>>>> I
>>>> was starting to say if you want real access you must go Linux. If you
>>>> want
>>>> easy access you must go windows.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 1:48 PM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included
>>>>
>>>> Octavian Rasnita wrote:
>>>> "I said only that the best accessibility is offered by Windows and
>>>> Jaws..."
>>>> *snicker*
>>>>
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